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PostSubject: GRiSO's heart with carbs   Thu Jan 22, 2015 3:38 am

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Impressive, - the shity wavey rotors.

Anyone want to make me an offer for the ago pipe... I'm sending an email to mr Bronold in regards to those trumpets he's put on in a very symmetrical way.
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PostSubject: Re: GRiSO's heart with carbs   Thu Jan 22, 2015 3:53 am

Ad B has gone the 2 into 2 route along with a oil cooler relocation under the steering tube.  Going the 2 into 2 route will make the most out of the V-Twin exhaust note for sure, but with equal length exhausts the standard GRiSO AF/R maps won't do.  Aesthetically, I'd miss the look of the lopsided lump, but I'd bet the sound would be heavenly.

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PostSubject: Re: GRiSO's heart with carbs   Thu Jan 22, 2015 4:13 am

I fully expect to be labeled a grumpy twatt with no imagination for pissing on Mr Bronold's 'creation', but here goes -

Putting an 8V into a Tonti frame is a backwards step IMO. Also, why do knuckle-dragging Luddites still sprout the virtues of carbs? Morons.

Anyone who disagrees with me can bite me.
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PostSubject: Re: GRiSO's heart with carbs   Thu Jan 22, 2015 4:42 am

Every decade or so some Dumbfuck comes up with the idea that 'Retro' Guzzi will sell. It never does.

This is one of the wonders of the current V7 series. They sell. Why do they sell?they sell because they are completely and utterly *Unthreatening* and hark back to the days that their purchasers remember as the youth that they aspired to.

That's fine. I love the V7 because they are my bread and butter, but I have to admit I grind my teeth a bit when their owners try and tell me that Guzzi has lost its way and they should be building monstrosities like this.

I have no idea or interest in whether it's a photoshop or a running creation but there are so many *Difficult* engineering aspects to the whole sad thing that make it? Well? Plain shitty.

Just foe starters the old Tonti Bevelbox designed to take 55HP but taken out to accepting 75! It has an 8/33 ratio. CARC has 12/44 with much, much larger teeth. Do the math! If it's used with the six speed it'll be a cunt of a thing. If it's used with the five speed, (Also designed for 55HP!) how the fuck are you going to get a clutch to work?

All of these fantasies, and that is what they are, are backward looking exhibitions of wanton onanism ejaculated on the web by cretins and ignorami!

I fart on their heads!

Pete

And don't get me started on carbs.......
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PostSubject: Re: GRiSO's heart with carbs   Thu Jan 22, 2015 4:53 am

Yep, one decent crack of the throttle and the rear end will shit gears.











.....even with carbs.









I fucken hate carbs.
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PostSubject: Re: GRiSO's heart with carbs   Thu Jan 22, 2015 5:23 am

Carbs were great instruments...... IN THEIR DAY! People say, "Oh, but it's easy to tune carbs."

No it isn't. Every fuckwit and his dog thinks that tuning carbs involves changing main jets. Mains are the very last thing you play with on a road bike but they are cheap so that's what people change. What do they end up with? Thirsty, unrideable pigs but they did it all themselves! Well done them!

I still fart on their heads!

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PostSubject: Re: GRiSO's heart with carbs   Thu Jan 22, 2015 5:34 am

I shall eat beans to help your fart quest.
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PostSubject: Re: GRiSO's heart with carbs   Thu Jan 22, 2015 5:40 am

When you get to my age you need no assistance farting damply,lavishly and with great frequency!

Pete
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PostSubject: Re: GRiSO's heart with carbs   Thu Jan 22, 2015 5:47 am

Pete Roper wrote:
When you get to my age you need no assistance farting damply,lavishly and with great frequency!

Pete

I live with a Vegatarian......... I understand. I have been eating lots of veg too..........I understand. When we are on the GRiSO together we go very fast.


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PostSubject: Re: GRiSO's heart with carbs   Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:25 am

Steady on fellas and let's concentrate on the pipes.

By the way, didn't someone say once "imagination is more important than knowledge"? Mr Bronold maybe
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PostSubject: Re: GRiSO's heart with carbs   Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:38 am

please, you lot stay away from bikexif web site - you'll all go blind or something else.
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PostSubject: Re: GRiSO's heart with carbs   Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:54 am

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PostSubject: Re: GRiSO's heart with carbs   Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:58 am

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PostSubject: Re: GRiSO's heart with carbs   Thu Jan 22, 2015 7:13 am

My dad always said, "never trust a fart"

Meanwhile Al, waddya want? Pictures of crap don't tell us nuthin.
There are two different pipe makers up here I can recommend.
Then you need Beetle to make you a custom map.
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PostSubject: Re: GRiSO's heart with carbs   Thu Jan 22, 2015 12:42 pm

Give me your GRiSO and $15k. I'll return it to you with many less parts and barely ride able.

Disclaimers, I don't know how to build bikes, don't have a beard, or tight pants...And I only have 1 grinder!!!


PS- Must admit, the Bellagio on exif is nice
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PostSubject: Re: GRiSO's heart with carbs   Thu Jan 22, 2015 3:42 pm

odder wrote:

don't have a beard



Whaaaat??? You'll have to fix that!


I too thought the Bellagio was very nice. Looks almost as good as Wayne's.  And no stupid hardware mods. Except it's got fucken pods! I hate pods!    Grrr! Snarl!
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PostSubject: Re: GRiSO's heart with carbs   Thu Jan 22, 2015 3:57 pm

Wayne, you should put yours forward to Bikeexif! It's as good as if not better...
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PostSubject: Re: GRiSO's heart with carbs   Thu Jan 22, 2015 5:07 pm

Unfortunately my Bellagio is not show bike quality. After removing side covers and other excess cosmetic bullshit, hoses & wiring have been left exposed and looks a little untidy. But I agree with odder's comment about unrideabilty when I look at a lot of these Orange County Café specials.

Worst case is all the CARC bikes with offset Ducati wheels, I just see the CARC bearings collapsing in no time.
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PostSubject: Re: GRiSO's heart with carbs   Thu Jan 22, 2015 8:40 pm

I like people trying to create things so in that regard, I'll give them credit as I am a custom fabricator myself.
But I agree with you guys... the 8V mated with its CARC and FI is not to be fucked with cause it just works.
Oh and a 5 speed gear box scenario?!?! I think not!  Rolling Eyes  Rolling Eyes  
Just build a custom frame "A la Martin" style around that power plant and voila!
Maybe a V11 frame would be a good start as well...
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PostSubject: Re: GRiSO's heart with carbs   Thu Jan 22, 2015 9:28 pm

ghezzi wrote:
Unfortunately my Bellagio is not show bike quality. After removing side covers and other excess cosmetic bullshit, hoses & wiring have been left exposed and looks a little untidy. 

Wayne, Bella could easily be tidied up with cable covers and some discreet fasteners, but I'm afraid nothing can help that chrome tank - perhaps you could rattle-can it first then scuff it up a bit with a grinder.  I reckon Bella's big advantages over the somewhat staid bikexif model are your suspension mods and CF wheels that make it an outrageous backroads bend swinger.
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PostSubject: Re: GRiSO's heart with carbs   Thu Jan 22, 2015 9:40 pm

My real problem is, I couldn't be arsed messing around with it, anymore. As in I've got it to ride and feel just right (for me), but all the show bike quality work means 100 hours of fucking around with it for zero gain in rideability. I have no intention of polishing the crap out of the chrome tank, in years to come the patina and scratches will just add to its character.
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PostSubject: Re: GRiSO's heart with carbs   Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:42 pm

fair 'nuff
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