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PostSubject: Reliability of the brands.   Sat May 02, 2015 6:18 pm

While Harley, BM, Ducati, Benelli and Buell all have free roadside assist, I tow just as many BMW's as Harleys, yet Harley must out sell BMW by 3:1

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PostSubject: Re: Reliability of the brands.   Sat May 02, 2015 6:37 pm

The great thing about statistics is you can make 'em say whatever you want.
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PostSubject: Re: Reliability of the brands.   Sat May 02, 2015 7:39 pm

lies, damned lies, and statistics
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PostSubject: Re: Reliability of the brands.   Sat May 02, 2015 7:48 pm

I put 20,000 happy miles on my BMW F800ST and loved that bike. In fact I still miss it like the dickens. It did have a few frustrating problems around fueling and intermittent stalling that I wasn't able to resolve and BMW came through with a recall on the rear bearing before it became a problem for me. Still though I've got a thing for the K1300S and S1000R.
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PostSubject: Re: Reliability of the brands.   Sat May 02, 2015 8:13 pm

I'm also a member of a closed forum, owned and run by a German national, who is a BMW specialist trained at the factory. He runs a private workshop and is equivalent to our Roper san.

He's owned many of the late models including the new S1000R, he and all his customers have got rid of them .................. too many inherent design faults to list.

K1300's suffer from persistant switch block failures ................

R1200RT had a world wide recall to replace the rear shock, they were snapping the shafts.

I have always accepted that BMW's were the most reliable bike on the planet, well it was back in the R90S days. I had the 1200RT on my short list for my "Bucket List" ride around Australia.

I'm not BMW bashing here, just saying the goal posts have shifted. Sure technology across all manufacturers has improved our riding experience and pleasure, but it has come at a cost.
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PostSubject: Re: Reliability of the brands.   Sat May 02, 2015 9:14 pm

Guzzi's not even listed, presumably because their manufacturing numbers are so low they don't even register, but in my experience, once dialed in, as reliable as any other bike on the road.
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PostSubject: Re: Reliability of the brands.   Sun May 03, 2015 5:21 am

Yeah that Stat is a joke.
I'll put Triumph before Harley... and Victory? How many of those are sold in order to have a true idea.
They do have good reviews though.
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PostSubject: Re: Reliability of the brands.   Sun May 03, 2015 9:59 am

I have owned several Yamahas and they were pretty much trouble free; '68 125cc. '72 350cc, '79 SR500cc, '81 1100 Special, '01 FZ1 1000cc, '06 FZ6 600cc. None of these bikes ever failed me or left me out on the road.
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PostSubject: Re: Reliability of the brands.   Sun May 03, 2015 1:29 pm

The Jap brands are on top and there is no arguing that.
After them, all bets are off but it sure ain't Harley even though they got better lately...
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PostSubject: Re: Reliability of the brands.   Sun May 03, 2015 7:16 pm

Street wrote:
Guzzi's not even listed, presumably because their manufacturing numbers are so low they don't even register, but in my experience, once dialed in, as reliable as any other bike on the road.

I thought it was because they never had failures! Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Reliability of the brands.   Sun May 03, 2015 8:26 pm

That must be it!
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PostSubject: Re: Reliability of the brands.   Mon May 04, 2015 11:46 am

I think Buell owners will be needing more than roadside assist before long
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PostSubject: Re: Reliability of the brands.   Mon May 04, 2015 9:20 pm

MGs don't. My bikes flat tappet system did not suffer a failure by any means.

The components were precisely engineered and tailored to my riding habits and set to experience end of life exactly when they did so that I could get the new roller upgrade while just barely sliding in under warranty.

Fantastico - how do they do it?!


Addendum: uhhhh yeah, oil pressure sending unit did fail. Engine is no longer flat black though.... looks pretty slick. Upgrade #2 Thumbs Up
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PostSubject: Re: Reliability of the brands.   Mon May 04, 2015 11:03 pm

If you want a BMW that is reliable, tremendously fun, and easy on the wallet, pick up an old K-bike for a song and start chopping. They are a dime a dozen here in Socal and make a fun and easy project. When I'm in a particularly twisty mood, the K75 often gets the nod while the big G takes a day off.

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PostSubject: Re: Reliability of the brands.   Tue May 05, 2015 5:24 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Reliability of the brands.   Tue May 05, 2015 7:17 pm

Nice chop!   I liked my old K75S - very predictable bike - my goto ride.  I finally got rid of it 'cause it just didn't sound like a motorcycle...
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PostSubject: Re: Reliability of the brands.   Tue May 05, 2015 8:21 pm

What??

Stock muffler??


I heard a K75 go by me when I was in Santa Cruz with a rorty muffler.
Sounded HOT.
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PostSubject: Re: Reliability of the brands.   Tue May 05, 2015 8:31 pm

LBC Tenni wrote:
If you want a BMW that is reliable, tremendously fun, and easy on the wallet, pick up an old K-bike for a song and start chopping. They are a dime a dozen here in Socal and make a fun and easy project. When I'm in a particularly twisty mood, the K75 often gets the nod while the big G takes a day off.

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That bike of yours looks like terrific fun. Well done!
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PostSubject: Re: Reliability of the brands.   Tue May 05, 2015 11:44 pm

Thanks guys. The stock boat anchor muffler is the first thing that has to go on the Kbikes. I picked up this Australian made Staintune on Ebay for $100 and it sounds beautiful. These Staintunes were made specifically for the Kbikes. There was nothing to like about the very heavy and totally silent stocker, so Staintune sold a lot of these and they're still pretty easy to find. Luftmeister made a nice replacement too that sounds similar.

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PostSubject: Re: Reliability of the brands.   Wed May 06, 2015 9:08 am

DungeonMaster wrote:
What??

Stock muffler??


I heard a K75 go by me when I was in Santa Cruz with a rorty muffler.
Sounded HOT.

Not stock, but a SS Staintune - it was the whine from the engine (K-whiner) that finally got to me.
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PostSubject: Re: Reliability of the brands.   Fri May 08, 2015 7:39 pm

ahhhhhhh. I never had the chance to ride the bike - just heard it pull away.
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