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PostSubject: slippery stuff   Wed May 13, 2015 8:49 am

Hi, Sorry about the boring topics and the brain picking guys, but the hand book iv'e got don't tell me much, could someone tell me a good engine oil for the GRiSO, and what octane fuel is the go for them.  thanks in advance.

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PostSubject: Re: slippery stuff   Wed May 13, 2015 9:24 am

Hi Wakey, how long is a piece of string ?
The good shit to use is Penrite, Aussie brand, go to their web site and search motorcycles, guzzi, GRiSO 8v etc. it will give you recommendations and quantities for everything.
I run Penrite Sin 10 ( 10w-70) but don't know if its available anymore, I think it changed names to Premium 10 but they may have recently dropped it altogether. They now have Racing 10 which is a 10w-60 which should still meet the Specs found in the back of your owners manual or on this forum under Grisology , Pegged - Maintenance shedules, etc
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PostSubject: Slippery stuff    Wed May 13, 2015 9:53 am

Thanks for that Ron, iv'e been running PENRITE in my bikes for a while now so i'll change the Guzzi over to it to now, the guy that owned it was running it on castrol 20/ 40 winter and 20/ 50 summer, i used to like castrol and i use to run my 74 triumph trident on it when i first bought it 20 years ago and i was having premature valve guide ware and each time i pulled the head off it was gummed up something shocking and the gurru's told me it was the castrol oil doing it, so i changed too penrite and i've had the head off since and its clean as, so thats what i'll be putting in the Guzzi. thanks again Ron hope to talk again mate.

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PostSubject: Re: slippery stuff   Wed May 13, 2015 10:57 am

Yep what Waterbottle said
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PostSubject: Re: slippery stuff   Thu May 14, 2015 12:18 am

Remember this is all very subjective, personal preference etc. you could research this for weeks and come up with a lot of different oils to use. Best call someone who services these machines for a living, they get to see the internals of our engines on a regular basis and would better advise you as to which ones work best in GRiSO, as Sol said " oils ain't oils"
I think there's a list of recommended workshops here somewhere
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PostSubject: Re: slippery stuff   Thu May 14, 2015 12:35 am

Really any good quality full ester synthetic that meets the manufacturers specifications will be fine.

As for fuel? The highest octane you can get, preferably without ethanol.

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PostSubject: Re: slippery stuff   Thu May 14, 2015 2:17 am

+1 for penrite stuff. I am currently using motul 7100 10w60 because I can get it for around $60 or $70. I am contemplating to go with the car oil at some stage as clutch and box are separate. Preferably with zinc, but it may only be available as track use only I believe, because it doesn't meet the new regulated specifications. I could be wrong.
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PostSubject: Re: slippery stuff   Thu May 14, 2015 3:32 pm

Unfortunately, I don't think we can get Penrite in the US, and none of the 'big oil' companies make a 10W60 or 70 ??
I use Motul Synthetic as well, as I can get it from Amazon. I've seen Motorex on there too.
I think BMW car dealers might stock it, as its specified for M-tuned BMWs.
(and I'm not starting an 'Oil War' here.... )

This might be of a related interest: I just got my oil analysed, as I overheated the bike pretty badly - stuck in the mass of identically-dressed Harley-riding 'Individualists' at Bike Week. The dipstick thermometer pegged at 130degC, and the oil pressure light came on. I shut the bike down quickly, but thought I might have cooked the oil.....

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Does anyone else (Pete ??) have any Guzzi oil analysis data for comparison ?
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PostSubject: Re: slippery stuff   Thu May 14, 2015 6:47 pm

What's wrong with AGIP? Price has gone up again, but it's all I ever thought to use. If you search, you can sometimes get a case deal.
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PostSubject: Re: slippery stuff   Thu May 14, 2015 8:01 pm

Hi Jeremy, I haven't had an oil analysis done for years but the iron, aluminium and copper would be your wear metals in the engine yes ? Copper looks high
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PostSubject: Re: slippery stuff   Thu May 14, 2015 9:20 pm

The older Guzzi's (and my Bellagio) require the sump to be dropped to change the oil filter.
Lots of visible flotsam and jetsam at the first 2 oil/filter changes, after that the sump was always clean to the naked eye.
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PostSubject: Re: slippery stuff   Fri May 15, 2015 1:12 am

Any of the Brisbane riders know where I can grab some suitable 10W60? I'm on a mission to find some tomorrow, hopefully on the Southside/Logan. I tried Supercheap last night but they only had Penrite Racing 10W50.
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PostSubject: Re: slippery stuff   Fri May 15, 2015 3:31 am

Bursons usually stock it.
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I get Penrite from Moorooka or next door to Newell's at the 'gabba

As it appears on the bottle;
10 TENTHS
PREMIUM 10
FULL SYNTHETIC

10W-70

Call ahead to make sure its on the shelf.

Better still, call now and they may get it in for you by this arvo.
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PostSubject: Re: slippery stuff   Fri May 15, 2015 3:37 am

ghezzi wrote:
Bursons usually stock it.
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I get Penrite from Moorooka or next door to Newell's at the 'gabba

As it appears on the bottle;
10 TENTHS
PREMIUM 10
FULL SYNTHETIC

10W-70

Call ahead to make sure its on the shelf.

Better still, call now and they may get it in for you by this arvo.

Beauty. Thanks mate.
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PostSubject: Re: slippery stuff   Fri May 15, 2015 4:09 am

Also, which Penrite gear oils are people using? There doesn't seem to be an exact match to the AGIP listed in the manual (80W90 and 85W90).
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PostSubject: Re: slippery stuff   Fri May 15, 2015 4:22 am

Penrite have shit-canned the 10-70, I bought the last of their stock. They've reverted to a 10/60. No biggie.

As for gear oil I use their Pro Gear or whatever it's called full synth 75/90 in bothe gearbox and bevelbox. No issues yet.

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PostSubject: Re: slippery stuff   Fri May 15, 2015 5:09 am

Pete Roper wrote:
Penrite have shit-canned the 10-70, I bought the last of their stock. They've reverted to a 10/60. No biggie.

As for gear oil I use their Pro Gear or whatever it's called full synth 75/90 in bothe gearbox and bevelbox. No issues yet.

Pete

Great. Thanks for your help, Pete.
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PostSubject: Re: slippery stuff   Sat May 16, 2015 12:29 am

I've recently changed to the Pro Gear Full Synthetic 80W-140 in both boxes, been to Tassie and back , Long flat pub and back- around 10000 kms.
No issues with shifting when cold etc, and it still drains like water when hot Wink
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PostSubject: Re: slippery stuff   Sat May 16, 2015 6:15 am

Greetings
Has anyone used BO oil?
Firstly you think the marketing guys would be plugging for a brand name change. This one is pretty stink.
Secondly they claim -
BO Motor-Oil has been manufacturing their highest quality- hi-performance oil in Holland Europe for more than 25 years; they also rebrand and supply their oil to other well know names in the sport.


Its certainly cheaper here in NZ. They claim their 10w 60 is full ester.
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PostSubject: Re: slippery stuff   Sat May 16, 2015 7:24 am

10W60 Full Synthetic is the spec.

Unless it is snake oil, then I think you're good to go.

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PostSubject: Re: slippery stuff   Sat May 16, 2015 9:09 am

waterbottle wrote:
I've recently changed to the Pro Gear Full Synthetic 80W-140 in both boxes, been to  Tassie and back , Long flat pub and back- around 10000 kms.
No issues with shifting when cold etc, and it still drains like water when hot Wink

Glad to hear it. This is what I ended up getting. Also I ordered in 5L of Penrite 10tenths Premium 10W60 (which as Pete said, now replaces the previous 10W70) from Autobarn on sale.
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