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PostSubject: Your Favorite Helmet   Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:46 pm

I use both a Nolan flip front - very noisy and unstable at speed , relegated to town use only now.
and a Shoei XR1100 - very stable but still noisy , need ear plugs for highway use, best one I've used so far.
Now this is available........
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PostSubject: Re: Your Favorite Helmet   Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:48 pm

I have an RJays GP2 and it is not too bad noise wise - however I still use plugs. I believe that the Shoei and similar, are the worst noisemakers, and the cheaper end of the spectrum are quieter - read that somewhere in a review some years back.
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PostSubject: Re: Your Favorite Helmet   Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:54 pm

I've got a Schubert C3 flip front with the bluetooth collar as an extra, cost $1250 landed with taxes etc

Helmet is very quiet wind noise wise, a little louder with all the communications fitted.
Exhaust is my main noise issue.
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PostSubject: Re: Your Favorite Helmet   Thu Dec 31, 2015 10:13 pm

Wayne, the faster you go, the quieter the exhaust - just saying...
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PostSubject: Re: Your Favorite Helmet   Thu Dec 31, 2015 10:29 pm

I've got a Shoei TZ-X and it's a noisy sumbitch. The cheaper Nolan's I used to use were much quieter. I think the main problem is the cut-outs for the speakers. I always ride with plugs, but recently it's really starting to shit me. I stuffed foam into the cut-outs, but noise reduction was marginal.

I've been thinking about a new helmet for a while. Looks interesting. I like the idea of no chin strap. The blurb talks about being AS and DOT certified, but I couldn't find any evidence of same.
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PostSubject: Re: Your Favorite Helmet   Thu Dec 31, 2015 10:50 pm

Ive got a Bell RS1. Noisy fucker,added foam and 100mph tape....I bought this to replace an Aldi jobby which was nearly a tenth of the price of the Bell and 10 times quiter and more streamlined.....
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PostSubject: Re: Your Favorite Helmet   Thu Dec 31, 2015 11:07 pm

Yers, I'm due for a new helmet. I really like the Shark flip face but even the XL is a bit small for me and fit is unformfortable.

What I would really like is a slightly bigger Shark but they don't make one so I'll be looking for something different too. I have absolutely no idea what. The last Shoei I had was fucking horrible! It fell to bits as I was riding!

Can you still get Arai in Oz?

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PostSubject: Re: Your Favorite Helmet   Thu Dec 31, 2015 11:39 pm

Arai are still around, a few different types, but can't find a flip front one
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PostSubject: Re: Your Favorite Helmet   Thu Dec 31, 2015 11:47 pm

The Schuberth looks good.
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PostSubject: Re: Your Favorite Helmet   Thu Dec 31, 2015 11:59 pm

Are they available in Oz with certifications? While I resent the fact we pay shitload more for helmets just because they have a label sown in to them I'd be a lot more pissed off if I ran into a Lambo and then the got told my insurance was void because I wasn't wearing an ADR helmet!

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PostSubject: Re: Your Favorite Helmet   Fri Jan 01, 2016 12:50 am

AFAIK Schuberth are not AS/NZ approved, so no. Not buying one.
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PostSubject: Re: Your Favorite Helmet   Fri Jan 01, 2016 12:54 am

Ron, I see on that other forum you're thinking about getting a Vozz? I would be interested in your opinion when/if you get one.
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PostSubject: Re: Your Favorite Helmet   Fri Jan 01, 2016 2:02 am

I was under the impression helmets meeting the current EU standard are now accepted in Australia
and there is supposed to be a NZ importer for Schubert, cheaper than what I paid.
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PostSubject: Re: Your Favorite Helmet   Fri Jan 01, 2016 2:28 am

Does it have the AS/NZ 1698 five-tick sticker? If no, then not legal.
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PostSubject: Re: Your Favorite Helmet   Fri Jan 01, 2016 3:23 am

Australian Motorcycle Helmet Standards - REVOKED

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Cruising around their website I noted two interesting points;
1. KBC VR1-X has been recalled.
2. States can currently set their own standard.

Qld is thus;
When riding a motorcycle, you need to legally wear a helmet—this must be approved to Australian Standard AS 1698, AS/NZS 1698 or United Nations Economic Commission for Europe (ECE) 22.05 standard.

NSW standard quoted thus;
United Nations Economic Commission for Europe Regulation No 22 (UNECE22.05) as amended;

Aparrently, ECE22.05 is otherwise referred to as "Regulation 22" so look in your helmet for the R22 tag.
My helmet also has E13 which relates to the UK standard for clear visors.

So my Schubert is legal.


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PostSubject: Re: Your Favorite Helmet   Fri Jan 01, 2016 4:01 am

Shocked

Woohoo! cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Your Favorite Helmet   Fri Jan 01, 2016 4:12 am

I had been told my helmet was legal, but I could not find any tags that I recognized.
Thanks for pushing me to do the research, I now have peace of mind.
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PostSubject: Re: Your Favorite Helmet   Fri Jan 01, 2016 12:00 pm

It's a brave new world for helmets over here now. The next few months will probably show a whole new range - but only after current stocks are cleared - might even be some discounting going on.

Smells of opportunity.
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PostSubject: Re: Your Favorite Helmet   Fri Jan 01, 2016 12:31 pm

Oz1200Guzzi wrote:

Smells of opportunity.


Aye.
After a Google-fest, I read an article that suggested helmet prices will go down. Bwahahahaha!


Also, don't go ripping any stickers of yer helmets just yet....



Road Rules 2014
Current version for 18 December 2015 to date (accessed 2 January 2016 at 07:27)
Part 16Rule 270
<< page >>
270 Wearing motor bike helmets

(1) The rider of a motor bike that is moving, or is stationary but not parked, must:
(a) wear an approved motor bike helmet securely fitted and fastened on the rider’s head, and
(b) not ride with a passenger unless the passenger complies with subrule (2).
Maximum penalty: 20 penalty units.

Note. Motor bike and park are defined in the Dictionary.
(2) A passenger on a motor bike that is moving, or is stationary but not parked, must wear an approved motor bike helmet securely fitted and fastened on the passenger’s head.
Maximum penalty: 20 penalty units.

(3) In this rule:
approved motor bike helmet means a protective helmet for motor bike riders of a type that complies with any one or more of the following standards and has an identifying mark certifying compliance with that standard:

(a) Australian/New Zealand Standard AS/NZS 1698:2006, Protective helmets for vehicle users (AS/NZS 1698),
(b) in the case of a helmet manufactured in Australia—the version of AS/NZS 1698 or Australian Standard AS 1698—1988, Protective helmets for vehicle users (AS 1698—1988) that was in force at the time the helmet was manufactured, or any later version of AS/NZS 1698 or AS 1698—1988,
(c) in the case of a helmet imported into Australia—the version of AS/NZS 1698 or AS 1698—1988 that was in force at the time the helmet was imported, or any later version of AS/NZS 1698 or AS 1698—1988,
(d) United Nations Economic Commission for Europe Regulation No 22 Uniform Provisions Concerning the Approval of Protective Helmets and their Visors for Drivers and Passengers of Motor Cycles and Mopeds Revision 4 of 24 September 2002 (UNECE22.05) and any further amendments to UNECE22.05 approved and published by the United Nations Economic Commission for Europe, or any later version of UNECE22.05.
Note. This definition is not uniform with the definition in rule 270 (3) of the Australian Road Rules. However, the definition in the Australian Road Rules allows another law of this jurisdiction to make provision for the approval of protective helmets for motor bikes. Different definitions may apply in other Australian jurisdictions.
passenger, of a motor bike, includes a person on a passenger seat of the motor bike (including the pillion seat), or in a sidecar.

(4) For the purposes of paragraphs (a)–(c) of the definition of approved motor bike helmet in subrule (3), the identifying mark in the case of a motor bike helmet manufactured after 31 March 2011 must be the identifying mark of a body accredited or approved by the Joint Accreditation System of Australia and New Zealand.
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PostSubject: Re: Your Favorite Helmet   Fri Jan 01, 2016 12:36 pm

Oh yeah, Tasmania, South Australia, Western Australia and the ACT haven't ratified this change yet. So technically you still need an AS/NZ helmet to ride in those states. Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Your Favorite Helmet   Fri Jan 01, 2016 1:17 pm

ACT is in - the others not yet and you might get fined for having an improper helmet!
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PostSubject: Re: Your Favorite Helmet   Fri Jan 01, 2016 1:26 pm

The stupidity of Australian State law at its finest. Get rid of the states, I say.
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PostSubject: Re: Your Favorite Helmet   Fri Jan 01, 2016 1:33 pm

beetle wrote:
Ron, I see on that other forum you're thinking about getting a Vozz? I would be interested in your opinion when/if you get one.

I don't really need a new one , but you know how it is, I'll eventually talk myself into it.  Might read some more reports.
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PostSubject: Re: Your Favorite Helmet   Fri Jan 01, 2016 1:47 pm

burn the states at the stake, I say!
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PostSubject: Re: Your Favorite Helmet   Fri Jan 01, 2016 5:29 pm

Had an old Shark which was good, but at 15 or so years old, I thought I'd better replace it. Got a Shoei GT Air due to all the rave reviews about how quiet it was, and also because the Shoei fit was perfect for me. Well, this thing may be quiet on 99% of other bikes, but it's bloody noisy on a GRiSO. Even with earplugs I get this low frequency droning noise which can be annoying. That said, a very comfortable fit for me, and the internal sun visor works well.
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