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PostSubject: 2005-2006 Breva/GRiSO CARC recall.   Mon Feb 08, 2016 11:18 pm

Just to let any owners of early CARC bikes that might not of been notified of the recall. Contacted our importer today about a 2005 Breva that was eligible. It appears that the recall campaign has been closed due to age so anybody with an early one is on their own.

Please don't winge. The latest bikes this was relevant to are ten years old. Owners should of been notified or their dealers should of checked when the bike was in for service. I don't want a lot of spineless whinging about how terrible it is. If the bike was taken in to be serviced it should of been picked up. If you don't take your bike in for service and never set foot in a dealership and buy all your parts off the internet don't be surprised if you end up being the bunny.

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PostSubject: Re: 2005-2006 Breva/GRiSO CARC recall.   Fri Feb 26, 2016 9:46 am

Is this about that preload nut lock tab not been properly applied during assembly or for the low quality bearings on a bunch of CARCs ?

Or do I remember these wrong...?
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PostSubject: Re: 2005-2006 Breva/GRiSO CARC recall.   Fri Feb 26, 2016 2:13 pm

No, it was the shit bearing they used in the early ones to support the crownwheel flange on the wheel side.

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PostSubject: Re: 2005-2006 Breva/GRiSO CARC recall.   Fri Feb 26, 2016 3:02 pm

I remembered you improvised a way to dismantle the whole CARC thing and put it back together or it finally proved not feasible or not worthing the effort?

That is, once it goes crap for whatever reason (water etc), can you work on it or it all goes out the window in one (very expensive) piece?
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PostSubject: Re: 2005-2006 Breva/GRiSO CARC recall.   Fri Feb 26, 2016 7:51 pm

You can replace all the bearings but actually taking apart the reactive bridge to do so is probably not a job for a novice and there are some parts that are not available for purchase.

In all honesty if you trash one, (And the most likely cause of this is going to be the pinion nut coming loose.) just look around for a second hand one. I have a row of six, any colour you like! Haven't sold one yet!

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PostSubject: Re: 2005-2006 Breva/GRiSO CARC recall.   Mon Feb 29, 2016 12:19 pm

Hey Pete, has there been any noise from the factory about the couple of Stelvio's that had the CARC break? Did they ever investigate the cause?

How did that guy you sent the arm to in SA fare? All better?
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PostSubject: Re: 2005-2006 Breva/GRiSO CARC recall.   Mon Feb 29, 2016 12:49 pm

Piaggio denies any problem point blank. Whether this will come back and bite them on the arse I have no idea but three documented cases from the same short production run? What's the old saying about walking and quacking?

AFAIK the SA bloke's bike is back together. Last time we corresponded he was planning to keep it. I should get in touch again and find out what he decided.

What shat me about the whole thing was the immediate furore created with all of the Luddites immediately saying the entire system was unsafe! Despite the fact that it had been in production since 2005 with zero problems and then once again, after the short run in mid 2012, no further problems until now. In 1985 there was a run of Tonti bevelboxes that spat out crownwheel bolts! There was a fairly long run of these horrors most of which were fitted to Mk IV LeMans. On many occasions the bolt would jam between the crownwheel and pinion locking the back wheel. The shop I was working at had a run of five in a month. There were some pretty serious injuries out of that but some of the self same fuckwads who are saying 'Anything modern is junk' will categorically deny there have ever been any problems with their beloved dinosaurs which are the acme of motorcycle design and production!

No of course dangerous issues shouldn't occur and certainly shouldn't be swept under the carpet or denied but the cretinous double standards and blinkered bigotry shits me to tears.

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