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Pete Roper
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PostSubject: Well I never!   Fri Feb 19, 2016 10:50 am

A few months ago one of the members here kindly sent me his Pazzo brake and clutch levers. Well the other day I finally got around to fitting them and I'm absolutely gobsmacked by what a difference they've made!

Previously I'd swapped out the stock levers, which I was never happy with as they seemed to trigger my arthritis, for some of the readily available Hong Kong aftermarket units. These worked well enough but they didn't *feel* particularly good and control was seemingly less than subtle. With the change to the Pazzos it's been a revelation! Despite the angles and dimensions being identical the Pazzos have superb *feel* and for some reason give a level of control and confidence that completely overshadows their cheaper counterparts from HK! I have no idea why this should be so but truly it is! Amazing!

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PostSubject: Re: Well I never!   Fri Feb 19, 2016 12:11 pm

Psychosomatic? Or could it be, the Pazzo levers are actually magical? cheers

Seriously, they probably are ever so slightly different in shape and curvature. scratch
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PostSubject: Re: Well I never!   Fri Feb 19, 2016 12:50 pm

You can get a glass of good Chianti in Hong Kong, but it can never be great like the same glass of Chianti you had in Siena. Or in this case, Canada. Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Well I never!   Fri Feb 19, 2016 3:06 pm

beetle wrote:
Psychosomatic? Or could it be, the Pazzo levers are actually magical?  cheers

Seriously, they probably are ever so slightly different in shape and curvature. scratch

I think it's just that their shap and fit are superior to the knock-offs. I was really surprised by how much better they are. Certainly the profile of the front of the lever where you exert the pressure is far superior.

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PostSubject: Re: Well I never!   Fri Feb 19, 2016 8:41 pm

The first thing I purchased for my GRiSO in July was some silver Pazzo levers @ the recommendation of AF1Racing and I love them.. I have the adjustable short levers in silver and black.
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PostSubject: Re: Well I never!   Sat Feb 20, 2016 11:11 am

I've had the "Crazy" levers on my GRiSO since 2007 GRiSO #1. They've survived a few get offs at both high and low speeds no worse for the wear. The quality is superb, I put cheap, Chinese knock-offs on the Stelvio and the difference is remarkable.

They are spendy, but the Pazzos are built to last.

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PostSubject: Re: Well I never!   Sun Feb 21, 2016 1:14 pm

Took a MV Brutale 800 for a spin on Friday(they didnt have a f3 test bike), engine meh, brakes holey farrrrrrrrk but at 50 kg lighter than a GRiSO its probably to be expected...

also had a go on the brutale 675, loved the engine was just angrier than its big brother revs to 15K...

Back on topic, maybe its time to think about a brake upgrade for the GRiSO, after i get the roller tappets done.

cya
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PostSubject: Re: Well I never!   Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:35 pm

I can get you ISR one piece billet radial 6 piston/6pad calipers (rear is 4 piston/4pad) in Titanium if you wish,
less than AUD$4000


These are axial mounted, fronts weigh 406g each, rear weighs 127g.
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PostSubject: Re: Well I never!   Mon Feb 22, 2016 3:47 pm

Yes I did try the 800 MV, and brakes were great, maybe even to much. Might indeed have to do with the weight. But I have the monoblock brembo radials, and they are good too. ANd cheap as they come of ducati/mv/ktm superbikes that get totaled all the time. What finishes it, is a radial pump. I have it on the daytona, not yet on the stelvio.

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PostSubject: Re: Well I never!   Mon Feb 22, 2016 6:54 pm

Brakes will be improved if you throw away the stock pads and fit a set of HH pads, the EBC ones seem to work well on many Grisos and will improve performance and feel.
As Paul suggested a properly matched radial master cylinder will improve things further.
A lot of people have used Brembo etc., I fitted a nissin one which I purchased from Japan because it is well made, was more reasonably priced and the clincher I can get parts to repair it which is not always possible or easy for the Italian stuff.
Keep in mind if you are not on a race track with a known and consistent surface having mega brakes without the ABS system newer bikes are running could be nasty, good and progressive feel is probably more important for a road bike then ultimate power.
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PostSubject: Re: Well I never!   Mon Feb 22, 2016 7:57 pm

Paul: Those are sweet! Can you give some guidance as to what terms to use when buying a used set off ebay: brembo model number; brembo description ("monobloc"?); bikes fitted to; etc.

Assume the bolt centers are same, same.

While i'm on this vein:

What other bikes use same Showa fork as GRiSO? Suzuki GSXR 600 and 750, right? What year?

I'm mulling about the idea of a forged aluminum wheel as GRiSO front wheels are pretty rare for how mundane they are. Again, any guidance most appreciated.

Thanks!
JL

pauldaytona wrote:
Yes I did try the 800 MV, and brakes were great, maybe even to much.  Might indeed have to do with the weight. But I have the monoblock brembo radials, and they are good too. ANd cheap as they come of ducati/mv/ktm superbikes that get totaled all the time.  What finishes it, is a radial pump. I have it on the daytona, not yet on the stelvio.

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PostSubject: Re: Well I never!   Wed Feb 24, 2016 6:05 am

european bikes mostly have the 100mm spacing, only not shure about triumph.
10098/1198/diavel, 2014 14 KTM 1290 Super Duke R, some MV
Look for brembo M4 monobloc

I used original brake lines, they come a bit in an angle but it works.

From usa this looks best now:
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for australia, this, only size is a question, it can be 100 or 108, he states ducati also, so ask first what it is now.
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PostSubject: Re: Well I never!   Wed Feb 24, 2016 8:44 pm


Look for brembo M4 monobloc

"Brembo M4", OK, got it!

Thanks again, Paul.
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