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PostSubject: CARC Oil 85W140   Tue Apr 05, 2016 1:13 pm

Hi Guys,
I have just done an overhaul of my '08 GRiSO 8v, and between what the service manual says and the research done on the internet, I am still confused on the oil to be used in the CARC.
Here in France, ENI/Agip is a rare as hens teeth, so I had to buy the stuff from Germany.
The book states 85W90 for the CARC, but the German outfit sent me 85W140.
A bit of research on the webby came up with this :

eni Rotra bike MG  85W140 is a special EP lubricant complying with API GL-4 and API GL-5 performances, specifically designed for lubricating gears and final transmissions of motorbikes and scooters running under particularly heavy conditions and subjected to dynamic loads and high operating temperatures.
This oil has been designed with particular regard to lubrication of the spiral bevel gears of shaft transmissions on MOTO GUZZI models.


What do the experts think... should I swap out the 85W140, and fill up with 85W90 of leave the 85W140 in the CARC ?

Help appreciated.
Steve
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PostSubject: Re: CARC Oil 85W140   Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:53 pm

You don't need to use the Agip stuff. Any quality lube of the correct or close weight will be fine. I use a 75/90 weight full synth made locally.

While the 85/140 will probably work OK frictional losses will be higher and in cold weather I'd worry about the pinion nose bearing being starved as it warmed up.

Pete
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PostSubject: Re: CARC Oil 85W140   Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:45 pm

I use Motul 80W90, 'cos that's what my local Honda shop has.
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PostSubject: Re: CARC Oil 85W140   Tue Apr 05, 2016 4:14 pm

beetle wrote:
I use Motul 80W90, 'cos that's what my local Honda shop has.

I use the same, 'cuz it's cool French stuff and the 10W60 smells all flowery and shit...

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PostSubject: Re: CARC Oil 85W140   Tue Nov 22, 2016 9:03 am

Quick question, what is the normal operating temperature of these CARCs?
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PostSubject: Re: CARC Oil 85W140   Tue Nov 22, 2016 11:28 am

Depends on conditions and how you're riding. How long is a piece of string?
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PostSubject: Re: CARC Oil 85W140   Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:03 pm

Steak wrote:
beetle wrote:
I use Motul 80W90, 'cos that's what my local Honda shop has.

I use the same, 'cuz it's cool French stuff and the 10W60 smells all flowery and shit...

That's how we roll us French! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: CARC Oil 85W140   Wed Nov 23, 2016 7:12 pm

Actually the book says 80W90 for the CARC and 85W90 for the gear box.
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