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okuraner
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PostSubject: Nothing related with GRiSO...   Sun Jun 05, 2016 3:00 am

Oh boy! What an experience. Two-wheel drive Ural. 800 cc, 47 HP, copy of 1938 BMW, It was fun Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Nothing related with GRiSO...   Sun Jun 05, 2016 1:08 pm

They were not copies. The Russians bought the design off Germany in the 1930s.

I've had five, and blown up two. Brilliant fun.
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PostSubject: Re: Nothing related with GRiSO...   Sun Jun 05, 2016 2:01 pm

I heard the story. I am not sure if it is true or false. Stalin wanted to buy BMW motorcycles from Germany but Hitler denied this demand. Then, Russian paid to Norvegians to buy 20 BMW motorcycles and get them to Russia to the factory located near Ural mountains. Russians take to pieces this motorcycles and copied the parts one to one. I have no idea about whose technology was two wheel tracking.
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PostSubject: Re: Nothing related with GRiSO...   Sun Jun 05, 2016 2:15 pm

By the way, this is first time Ural imported to Turkey. Distributor announced the price for the 2 wheel track Ural Tundra with all of the accessories is €20,000 (one of the accessory was really fun. There was a nice looking aluminum box with the red cross on. I found out that it is first aid kit. I opened the box. There were 1 rapped bondage, 1 scissor, 5 pieces of band-aid and... 1 can of salted sardine, 1 pack of cinnamon chewing gum and one 25cc bottle with the written tag "First aid Vodka"

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PostSubject: Re: Nothing related with GRiSO...   Sun Jun 05, 2016 2:25 pm

okuraner wrote:
one 25cc bottle with the written tag "First aid Vodka"



cheers lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Nothing related with GRiSO...   Sun Jun 05, 2016 4:31 pm

"first aid vodca', thats if it has not been used as the emergency fuel for the unit .......
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PostSubject: Re: Nothing related with GRiSO...   Sun Jun 05, 2016 11:19 pm

okuraner wrote:
I heard the story. I am not sure if it is true or false. Stalin wanted to buy BMW motorcycles from Germany but Hitler denied this demand. Then, Russian paid to Norvegians to buy 20 BMW motorcycles and get them to Russia to the factory located near Ural mountains. Russians take to pieces this motorcycles and copied the parts one to one. I have no idea about whose technology was two wheel tracking.


"A Russian aero-engineer named Serjukow worked for BMW in Munich from 1935 to 1940. ..The R71 has been selected for manufacture in the USSR. Serjukow was given access to the R71 drawings and parts, since the model was not top of the line... Serjukow shipped several R71 back to Russia for analysis".

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PostSubject: Re: Nothing related with GRiSO...   Sun Jun 05, 2016 11:53 pm

Wow! That's the reliable information. Thanks Papa Lazarou.
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PostSubject: Re: Nothing related with GRiSO...   Mon Jun 06, 2016 12:08 am

What a great story Onur. Here's my version: It's a 2002 Moto Guzzi California 1100 with a sidecar made locally by DMC Sidecars modeled from the Ural sidecar. BTW, we prefer Irish Whiskey to Wodka for first aid purposes, but it's a minor cultural distinction - any alcohol will do in a pinch.

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PostSubject: Re: Nothing related with GRiSO...   Mon Jun 06, 2016 12:33 am

Great job, great photo!  cheers
Well; I will add a photo from the past... from the year 1951. He is my father with 750 cc Harley Davidson (1948). He built sidecar completely by himself. We as a family (I was 6 years old) travelled in Turkey which we had no asphalt roads that time.

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And this is taken on 1937 in Gaziantep (south east of Turkey). My father and my mother. My father was working for construction company there.  They were just merried.

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PostSubject: Re: Nothing related with GRiSO...   Mon Jun 06, 2016 1:07 am

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PostSubject: Re: Nothing related with GRiSO...   Mon Jun 06, 2016 2:18 am

Building things with your hands is in your blood Okuraner cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Nothing related with GRiSO...   Mon Jun 06, 2016 2:43 am

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PostSubject: Re: Nothing related with GRiSO...   Mon Jun 06, 2016 8:14 am

Fantastic, Onur!
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PostSubject: Re: Nothing related with GRiSO...   Mon Jun 06, 2016 8:23 am

okuraner wrote:
Great job, great photo!  cheers
Well; I will add a photo from the past... from the year 1951. He is my father with 750 cc Harley Davidson (1948). He built sidecar completely by himself. We as a family (I was 6 years old) travelled in Turkey which we had no asphalt roads that time.

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And this is taken on 1937 in Gaziantep (south east of Turkey). My father and my mother. My father was working for construction company there.  They were just merried.

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Made me grin.

Grand pix.

Thanks for posting.

Bill

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PostSubject: Re: Nothing related with GRiSO...   Mon Jun 06, 2016 8:46 am

Beautiful pictures, Onur!!  Thanks for posting! cheers

(BTW EUR 20,000 for the Ural seems a LOT of money to me, especially since they seem to be selling for less than EUR 10,000 in the rest of Europe...)
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PostSubject: Re: Nothing related with GRiSO...   Mon Jun 06, 2016 10:27 am

Onur
Love the pics of your parents. Thanks for posting them.
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PostSubject: Re: Nothing related with GRiSO...   Mon Jun 06, 2016 11:02 am

€20,000 is lots of money here too. But, importer pays 10% customs tax because it is not made in EU. Let say the import FOB price is €6000, 10% tax 600 became 6600. Now buyer pays 38% consumers tax. Then it becomes €9,108 then VAT from this total 18% sums up to €10,747 rest is the profit for importer and dealer Smile That is why 2015 GRiSO costs €19,000 here.
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PostSubject: Re: Nothing related with GRiSO...   Mon Jun 06, 2016 12:57 pm

Doing what a Ural does best

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Keeps me smiling and wrenching.

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PostSubject: Re: Nothing related with GRiSO...   Mon Jun 06, 2016 1:52 pm

bounce cheers Thumbs Up Nice Thread
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