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PostSubject: Marchesini Wheels   Wed Jul 06, 2016 1:17 pm

Now that I've figured out how to wheel my GRiSO around a corner, the quest for some more of everything is on Rolling Eyes
Does anyone know where I might obtain a set of Marchenisi Wheels to suit the GRiSO ??????
$ can be discussed , I realise they probably won't come cheap. The finder will be rewarded with a Hearty - Hi Ho and a pat on the back, or bottles of their Favorite tonic Laughing
And No..... The budget does not allow for BST wheels , sorry Ghezzi
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PostSubject: Re: Marchesini Wheels   Wed Jul 06, 2016 2:25 pm

Nyah, nyah, nyah nyah,nyah.
Ya not gettin any.

Front wheel off any 916 to 999 'S' or 'R' model duck will most likely be a forged magnesium wheel with the same disc mount/offset specs as the GRiSO. Measure twice, buy once.

Rear wheel off a BMW 1100/1150 has the same 4 bolt pattern as CARC Guzzi, centre alignment is only off by 0.030". Two problems though.
1. Disc mount, and therefore speedo sensor system will need to be fabricated.
2. I never found a lightweight alternative to the stock BMW wheel.

Later BMW's have magnesium wheels, with a 5 bolt pattern.

What would a custom made crown wheel cost? jocolor
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PostSubject: Re: Marchesini Wheels   Thu Jul 07, 2016 7:25 pm

ghezzi wrote:
Nyah, nyah, nyah nyah,nyah.
Ya not gettin any.
I'm getting enough to get by on  Cool
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PostSubject: Re: Marchesini Wheels   Fri Jul 15, 2016 6:00 am

Hey Ron, is this what you want?

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PostSubject: Re: Marchesini Wheels   Fri Jul 15, 2016 9:58 am

Now that is exactly what I had visualized wheel & adapter wise.
Most excellent.
Any information available?
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PostSubject: Re: Marchesini Wheels   Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:40 pm

What a thing of beauty. Do you Know what brand the wheels are ?  That's a Ducati rear wheel mount right ?
It would be nice if the wheels and mount are "off the shelf" available items
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PostSubject: Re: Marchesini Wheels   Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:50 pm

I found it on Pinterest ................. linked to some (Dutch ?) bike shop that does lots of customizing.
If you contact Rossopuro you'll most likely find it is one of their designs, they will take any Ducati wheel from the 1098 to Panigale.

From memory scratch their hub was Euro 700, or ......................... 1700???? scratch
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PostSubject: Re: Marchesini Wheels   Fri Jul 15, 2016 3:00 pm

I priced a set of similar wheels from Ipothesys, about $4700 plus freight, I don't think that included the rear wheel drive adapter
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PostSubject: Re: Marchesini Wheels   Sat Jul 16, 2016 3:02 am

Problem solvered!
Any style of wheel you want, any size you want in forged magnesium.

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AUD$4429 a pair. Local supplier.

Cheaper option;
If you chose a 2nd hand front wheel off a Ducati 1098S/R, then purchased a matching rear for the GRiSO, they will machine the hub to be a direct bolt on. No adapters required.
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PostSubject: Re: Marchesini Wheels   Sat Jul 16, 2016 6:49 am

The guy who rides that bike is Nicola Maccaferro. You can find him on FB and it helps if you speak Italiano
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PostSubject: Re: Marchesini Wheels   Sat Jul 16, 2016 3:54 pm

wardest wrote:
The guy who rides that bike is Nicola Maccaferro. You can find him on FB and it helps if you speak Italiano
Thanks Wardy, I don't understand Italian or do Bookface Rolling Eyes But if you could ask Nicola to join the Ghetto via facebook we might Glean some useful info from him cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Marchesini Wheels   Sun Jul 17, 2016 5:12 pm

I've sent an email to sportsbike.com.au regarding their PVM wheels for ................. GRiSO.?
Keep you posted.
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PostSubject: Re: Marchesini Wheels   Mon Jul 18, 2016 2:36 am

Got a reply from Phillip Chain (hope that's not a bad omen), he's looking into it.
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PostSubject: Re: Marchesini Wheels   Sun Jul 31, 2016 9:47 pm

DAS Mototech [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] -

According to Phil, these guys are in cahoots with PVM for Guzzi wheels????????
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PostSubject: Re: Marchesini Wheels   Mon Aug 01, 2016 4:42 am

I was saturday at the DAS Mototech shop.
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PostSubject: Re: Marchesini Wheels   Mon Aug 01, 2016 7:17 pm

ghezzi wrote:
DAS Mototech [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] -

According to Phil, these guys are in cahoots with PVM for Guzzi wheels????????

Forged alu wheels definitely on the bucket list!

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Their webshop indicates 19% VAT. Does anyone know if foreign orders are excused from this?

Thanks!
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PostSubject: Re: Marchesini Wheels   Mon Aug 01, 2016 7:58 pm

Foreigners do not pay VAT. Though import duties may apply
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PostSubject: Re: Marchesini Wheels   Tue Aug 02, 2016 12:52 am

JL I know both you and Waterbottle are keen for lighter wheels, there were a few on Guzzitech also keen but no takers on the BST carbon option.

Normally I would get involved pushing manufacturers to commit to a small batch .................. but I've got my (home made) wheels now. Also busy with the Ducati front end conversion on Bella and resurrecting my 5 year mothballed 2 stroke project.

If somebody like pauldaytona volunteered on your behalf to push locally with Das Mototech and PVM, you just might get them to commit.
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PostSubject: Re: Marchesini Wheels   Tue Aug 02, 2016 2:18 pm

ghezzi wrote:
JL I know both you and Waterbottle are keen for lighter wheels, there were a few on Guzzitech also keen but no takers on the BST carbon option.

Normally I would get involved pushing manufacturers to commit to a small batch .................. but I've got my (home made) wheels now. Also busy with the Ducati front end conversion on Bella and resurrecting my 5 year mothballed 2 stroke project.

If somebody like pauldaytona volunteered on your behalf to push locally with Das Mototech and PVM, you just might get them to commit.
Thanks again for sharing your information, Ghezzi. ... more free R&D for the benefit of this community.  Been avidly following your adventures with carbon wheels. I'm green with envy but but just can't justify $5K USD for a set of BSTs.

But $2.5K for forged alu wheels is getting into the stupid but doable range.  I was excited to see this thread, which seems to indicate that PVM wheels might be a bolt-on option without having to use a hub adapter as offerd by Ipothesys and Radical Guzzi.

I think we are all agreed on the potential benefits of lighter wheels. Mister GRiSO, being a lard butt, isn't exactly the most flickable bike I've ever ridden. With the xtra wide handlebars, hair-pin mountain roads are not a problem only because they are slow. At speed, all that mass and gyroscopic edffect could be really, really scary.

Picking up on another theme in this thread, can you confirm that a Ducati 999(?) wheel will fit the GRiSO? Actually, let me rephrase that: how do you buy a wheel off ebay? What are the critical criteria: Disk spacing? Distance between bearing faces? Please advise.

Cheers,
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PostSubject: Re: Marchesini Wheels   Tue Aug 02, 2016 3:49 pm

Putting lightweight wheels on a 240kg bike? that sounds a plan. is it not easier to buy a ducati and enjoy that for what it is and enjoy the GRiSO for what it is?

Jus sayin, each to their own. Smile

Chris

edit. on saying that the pic with the lobster back zorst... that is the only aftermarket piece of shite I have seen that actually looks "factory" on the GRiSO. Shame it will probably be road barred.
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PostSubject: Re: Marchesini Wheels   Wed Aug 03, 2016 2:54 am

Boxer. I once owned a Guzzi Cali Stone, tried improving it, like turning a sows ear into a silk purse.
Really lusted after a Ghezzi & Brian Fionda, then in 2007 discovered a Ducati Hypermotard 1100S had the same suspension/wheels/brakes/weight as the Iti special, at half the price. So I bought one.

That bike will turn any old fart into a young dickhead ..................... but the engine was the wrong way round and it had a chain thingy. Aside from that the Ducati has been a real head f#*k.
Hence the Bellagio diet and upmarket suspenders.

Egg 'ead. Go down to your local bike shop with tape measure in hand, measure disc to disc on every wog bike you can find. Generally speaking, 900SS, 748/916/ upto 749/999/, most of the Monster models & life, ST2/3/4, Multistrada, ........... Guzzi V11 range, Cali EV, ............Aprilia Mille, Tuono & RSV twins etc all had the same front discs.
320mm - 10mm offset - 6 bolt - 80mm PCD - 60mm hole.

Find any one of those bikes with same spacing disc-to-disc as GRiSO, and the wheel will slot in and discs will be centered with your calipers.
Wheel spacers will be a piece of piss for any machinist to knock up in alloy.
If necessary, wheel bearings can be changed as well if that is advantages.

If you start with 998/999 'S' or 'R' models you are more likely to get the forged magnesium wheels.
Same applies to any Ducati ---'S' in their other models. Likewise with Aprilia "Factory" models.
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PostSubject: Re: Marchesini Wheels   Wed Aug 03, 2016 7:27 pm

I have no links, just this photo that was sent to me.
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