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PostSubject: GRiSO 1200 SE 8V with Mistral conical    Sat Jul 30, 2016 1:13 pm

Hello everybody

Today I finally managed to spend some time with the GRiSO and her new exhaust. At 9am sneaked out of the house and recovered after 9 hours and some 500 kilometers back, come back happy and satisfied.

By the "Pfälzer Wald" towards France and in "Schönau" fueled:
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Next to "Bitche" (F) and at the Citadel a latching:
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Then even more in France and then made my way back. In "Annweiler am Trifels" again tanked and then made in "Alsenz" again a break:
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Now it's "Is the Mistral exhaust good":
(GRiSO 1200 8V SE roller tappets, air filter without change, Mistral conical with DB-killer in, own mapping with Lambda off)

- Start goes without problems.
- Warm-up just like the original somewhat behave/surly on gas.
- Volume in stand as when traveling with the original comparable.
- Sound pleases me well, not so deep as the original, but vigorous patting.
- Performance-wise, I could not feel a big difference. Can with 30 km/h roll by respective zones with 1500 U/min, without lumps. From 2500 U/min he pulls evenly (elastic) by upward, it is really funny from 4500 U/min up to ....
- Gas close, no slippers/bangs.
- Vibrations in the range of 3000 U/min significantly more like the original, but without being disagreeable.
- At low speeds you can hear a slight hiss, but there is no leak, but comes from the DB-killer. I guess by the passage of the small holes in the killer.
- The Mistral become at the transition to the collector a golden color. Very beautiful.
- After 500 km every screws are still tight and the DB-Killer is in place.

These are my personal and therefore subjective experiences. Dynamometer I do not need, because my butt is sensitive enough and my driving was really fun. I'm not a highspeed fetishist, but working on a round (rubber band), speedy driving style. On Mapping I'm still tinkering something to optimize the warm-up behavior and consumption. May be, i ask Mark (Beetle) to help me or give me some tips

I am absolutely satisfied!

Greetings
Markus

P.S.
I hope,that i use the right words and you could understand me. If not, give me a chance and ask me.
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PostSubject: Re: GRiSO 1200 SE 8V with Mistral conical    Sat Jul 30, 2016 2:40 pm

You are doing great Markus, very nice photos
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PostSubject: Re: GRiSO 1200 SE 8V with Mistral conical    Sat Jul 30, 2016 3:04 pm

Sexy!
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PostSubject: Re: GRiSO 1200 SE 8V with Mistral conical    Sat Jul 30, 2016 4:04 pm

Markus, the 8V vibrates when AFR is lean. You might want add, say 2%, fuel in the 3000 RPM range.





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PostSubject: Re: GRiSO 1200 SE 8V with Mistral conical    Sat Jul 30, 2016 4:08 pm

G'day Markus
Thanks for your pickies and words, appreciated
Boy, your English is much better than my German ....no need to worry about that
Greetings and best wishes from Tasmania
Stay warm
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PostSubject: Re: GRiSO 1200 SE 8V with Mistral conical    Sun Jul 31, 2016 1:30 am

Hi guys

Many thanks for your reply and the nice words. sunny

@ Mark
Good tip, thank you and I think you've got right. On the other hand, at low rotations, it is likely to be fat. It smells of petrol. I am thinking right now, whether I speak with my Minister of Economics (best wife of all), go to GRiSO.org and push some buttons. Wink

@all
Have a good day and beautiful rides with your GRiSO.

Greetings
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PostSubject: Re: GRiSO 1200 SE 8V with Mistral conical    Sun Jul 31, 2016 1:50 am

Mainz? Ancient Roman capital of Germania Superior. The absolute bitter end of the Empire of the West! On the mainland at least! Home as well to the 'Lost Legions' I believe? Some of the other spots up in Cumbria in Britania were probably more miserable but the 'Free Germans' were notorious for being the most savage of a very savage lot!

Jude and I are actually thinking of dropping in to see Triere, an ancient Roman fort. Perhaps we could meet up for a beer?

(Jude has a degree in pre-imperial Roman history so we tend to spend a lot of time visiting Roman stuff when we're travelling. Not everybody's cup of tea but it works for us!) Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: GRiSO 1200 SE 8V with Mistral conical    Sun Jul 31, 2016 2:06 am

Markus, I presume your Mistral has a cat? If so, my Mistral conical map won't work for you.




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PostSubject: Re: GRiSO 1200 SE 8V with Mistral conical    Sun Jul 31, 2016 2:44 am

@ Pete
Good posting! And perhaps, the beer is OK. cheers

@ Mark
Now that you mention it, the Mistral has a cat. But oh my god, I have forget to installed him. Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: GRiSO 1200 SE 8V with Mistral conical    Sun Jul 31, 2016 2:53 am

Sachs wrote:

@ Mark5
Now that you mention it, the Mistral has a cat. But oh my god, I have forget to installed him. Laughing


Tee hee. In that case, by all means push some buttons on GRiSO.org. Very Happy




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PostSubject: Re: GRiSO 1200 SE 8V with Mistral conical    Sun Jul 31, 2016 3:19 am

So, I have done it. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: GRiSO 1200 SE 8V with Mistral conical    Sun Jul 31, 2016 4:33 am

Don't forget to reset the TPS and autolearning parameters. You'll need to set the valves at 0.1mm and 0.15mm.





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PostSubject: Re: GRiSO 1200 SE 8V with Mistral conical    Sun Jul 31, 2016 5:07 am

Hi Mark

Mapping is written to my GRiSO and TPS and Autolearning is reset. Next week my GRiSO have a service date at the local MG dealer. After that, i will controll the valves by myself again. But i think, everything is ok, it's a good dealer/bike workshop.
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PostSubject: Re: GRiSO 1200 SE 8V with Mistral conical    Mon Aug 01, 2016 9:35 am

Hello Mark (Beetle) and all other

After I installed the new (Beetle) mapping on Sunday, today the first test ride was completed. With much fun I'm 120 km driven and can now say something about the mapping:

- The motor moves to the first touch of the Start-button directly.
- The Warm-up phase is significantly better and barely perceptible.
- The vibrations are only very small and a small area to feel (3000-3200 U/min). Much better than before and not disturbing.
- Drive with less than 2000 U/min (for example second gear, very low speed) was better before. But I know that this is too low anyway, for a two-cylinder with this capacity. So, it’s OK.
- From 2000 U/min motor rotates upward like a rubber band. Oh well, from 2500-3500 very nice and from 3500-> wow. Before, the wow has begun about 4500 with a kick at 5000. I love to ride a rubber band motor, so it’s perfect for me.
- Gas closed, it bangs very rare (only 3 times for the 120 km).
- After refuel, I am of the opinion that the consumption is lower. Must be verified.


Summary I can say, that you've done a very good job Mark. I will watch everything on and report here. I hope this is not too boring for you/all.

Best regards
Markus
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PostSubject: Re: GRiSO 1200 SE 8V with Mistral conical    Mon Aug 01, 2016 1:20 pm

Carry on.




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PostSubject: Re: GRiSO 1200 SE 8V with Mistral conical    Sat Aug 13, 2016 9:27 am

Hello

Today was the day for a little service:
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In and out was a little to much (in 0,13mm, out 0,18mm). A small work at the 8mm nut and the 3mm inbus and everything was perfect. In 0,10mm and out 0,15mm.

The tipp for removing the spark plugs is very good:
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After that i synchronize the cylinder, reset the TPS and autolearning parameters and change all oils. Tomorrow then comes the test drive.

Best wishes
Markus
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PostSubject: Re: GRiSO 1200 SE 8V with Mistral conical    Fri Sep 02, 2016 12:23 pm

Holy shit dude,

you are located in Mainz, really? Me too Very Happy Where did you get your GRiSO? Stein? Didn't think there was another one anywhere nearby. Beauty btw. And you seem to know stuff too Very Happy other than myself Sad Nice




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PostSubject: Re: GRiSO 1200 SE 8V with Mistral conical    Fri Sep 02, 2016 1:14 pm

Hi Meenzer (slang for person, living in Mainz)

Nearly Mainz, -> KH

I buy the beauty in 12/2015 from "Rickert" (Braubach). Yes, there are not so much Grisos here. May be, we make a trip together in the future.

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PostSubject: Re: GRiSO 1200 SE 8V with Mistral conical    Fri Sep 02, 2016 1:46 pm

Hey Markus,

Braubach does not ring a bell. Maybe I should check. Had several very, very bad experiences with Stein in Rüsselsheim, so I'd not recommend the guy. I have seen one GRiSO during a ride through town a few weeks ago, and that's that. KH is Kaiserslautern, right?

Sure we can do a trip. Currently I am still chilling in the Tuscany, but I'll be back in a week.

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PostSubject: Re: GRiSO 1200 SE 8V with Mistral conical    Fri Sep 02, 2016 6:01 pm

Wow Pete, if I'd have known you are an ancient history buff, we could have bored Jude yaking about the topic for hours during our little session when i was down there. Love history! "Quinctilius Varus, give me back my Legions!
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PostSubject: Re: GRiSO 1200 SE 8V with Mistral conical    Fri Sep 02, 2016 7:05 pm

Nice, Markus! I think the Mistral conical suits the GRiSO's look well. Glad to hear you have it pretty well sorted now. Next, suspension, I guess.

By the way, I marveled at your fellow countryman Ken Roczen this year as he destroyed the best the U.S. has to offer in outdoor motocross here in the states. Bad start? Didn't matter- he was through the pack in a lap or two and then set sail, made it look easy. Just really smooth, flowing rider- reminded me of Jean Michelle Bayle in his prime. Congrats! Prediction: he'll take both of his motos in the MX of Nations.
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PostSubject: Re: GRiSO 1200 SE 8V with Mistral conical    Fri Sep 02, 2016 10:29 pm

Converted Duc wrote:
Wow Pete, if I'd have known you are an ancient history buff, we could have bored Jude yaking about the topic for hours during our little session when i was down there. Love history! "Quinctilius Varus, give me back my Legions!

Jude has a degree in pre-imperial Roman history, you'd find her a lot more knowledgeable than me. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: GRiSO 1200 SE 8V with Mistral conical    Sat Sep 03, 2016 8:49 am

hirnkrampf wrote:
Hey Markus,
Braubach does not ring a bell. Maybe I should check. Had several very, very bad experiences with Stein in Rüsselsheim, so I'd not recommend the guy. I have seen one GRiSO during a ride through town a few weeks ago, and that's that. KH is Kaiserslautern, right?

Sure we can do a trip. Currently I am still chilling in the Tuscany, but I'll be back in a week.
Braubach near Koblenz.
"Stein"... i know what you mean.
KH -> Kreuznach

Nice holydays and greets
Markus
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