Ciao from Nevada

Signed away my soul this morning on a leftover '17 GRiSO. I've never ridden a Guzzi, so this should be quite the experience. I'm normally a fairly rational fellow, but I've always found something compelling in the sound of the Guzzi engine, and the GRiSO in particular seems to tick all the right boxes. My other bike is an '04 Tuono Factory--fantastic ride, but I needed another bike for more relaxed/longer trips, and occasional passenger duty (no rear seat or pegs on the T, and my wife and kids want to accompany me on occasion).

I hope I can ask a few questions, regarding the exhaust. After reading a bit from all the polite folks here, it seems that the Mistral hi-pipe is the way to go, given the well regarded maps from member beetle. Does the hi pipe present any issues for passenger accommodations? (Appears OK in photos, as long as they're careful with the left foot? And perhaps the carbon version won't cook said foot?). Second, does anyone have the lightech plate bracket from AF1, along with the hi-pipe and stock blinkers? Finally--if the hi-pipe isn't practical in this case, what (in general terms) would I be losing from a sound and performance standpoint by going with the conical Mistral?

Thank you  

Welcome Leone, nutters and good folk will be along shortly to answer all your questions.
But you've come to the right place.

Hello Leone
Greetings from Tasmania ....
Welcome to the GRiSO family and this chatter chatter site ......
Stay safe and warm

Hello ! Welcome, Bienvenue 

Welcome to the Ghetto, Leone!

Hmm. Mistral Hi-pipe & pillion isn't something I can answer. It does pose an issue for luggage. It can be overcome with use of hammer, hacksaw, and angle grinder. The Carbon on the Hi-Pipe doesn't get flesh melting hot to touch.

The seat is another matter. I suspect that combined with the high pillion pegs might leave your wife in anguish. Kids might be OK with it.

Lesser pipes (that's every other pipe) will just mean less torque in the low to midrange.


Welcome to the Ghetto!

 

I have fitted 1 1/2 inch lower footrest my 15 year old who is near 6 foot finds it comfy my wife finds it just bearable
My son however is a very talented rock climber with amazing core strength which really helps,
you will need to fit a rack of some sort for them to hang onto.

I also have a multistrada which is miles better for 2 up work

Appreciate the welcome, thanks everyone!

Looks like I'll be ordering the hi pipe

I'll look around for a rack and luggage options. Fortunately, most passenger trips will be short (popping out for dinner on occasion).

Welcome and enjoy your new ride, they are a delight to ride and own.

Welcome from Oregon! These Grisos are soulful machines and a joy to ride! Best wishes to you and yours!

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Finally a break in the weather, picked it up late this afternoon

Interesting machine. The shaft drive and characteristic engine pull were much less intrusive than expected, it's very refined. The stock fueling feels a tad lean (contributing to the sensitive throttle no doubt) and it's definitely a bit soft in the midrange, about what you'd expect from a typical new bike with factory fueling. Considering some of the horror stories regarding poorly setup bikes from the factory, I was surprised by how well it ran!

The handling is brilliant! I didn't expect a Tuono, but it's remarkably planted and predictable. The suspension clearly needs attention, but it's not too bad.

The brakes, however, are godawful. I'm sure they'll feel better once bled, but better pads (at minimum) are definitely in order.

I suppose I'll go through it a bit before doing anymore riding: beetle map, check the valves, throttle body sync, etc, etc. I've also read here a time or two that the swingarm and shock linkage bearings will require immediate attention  

BTW--the quality of this forum (and the information therein) was a huge positive contributing factor. I considered a GRiSO several years ago, but had no interest in installing a power commander/autotune (aka "the double abortion") to fix fueling on any bike I owned. Discovering via the forum that there were excellent maps available, along with Guzzidiag (wow!) made this a no-brainer.  

And now something none of you have seen before:

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She’s a beauty!  I give mine an ethanol free treat from time to time, especially here in wet Oregon. This website’s a good resource.
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Looks like mine did before I changed a few things.After that list you have, you might want to change the tyres to something that actually grips, like Michelin PR 5s,Metzler Roadtec 01s or Pirelli Angel GTs.[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
That is Pete Roper with mine the day I picked it up.

What a magnificent figure of a man! He strides like a colossus through the teeming riff-raff of Bungendore!

Or maybe not!

Good thing I wasn't drinking just then....or maybe I should have been. Thanks for all your help Pete.

Leone
Greetings from Tasmania.
Lovely looking ride, enjoy
Stay safe

Welcome to the fold.  

Euro Cycle in Nevada has been making some sales lately - my Red DEvil 2017 was delivered to Orlando from Vegas last night and the driver said he had dropped off an identical one on the other side of town earlier.

This is my second GRiSO so glad to be back in the saddle.  Hair dryer and contact cleaner take care of the stickers.  Termignoni went straight on and HH pads on tonight.  Man sized temporary settings (220lb) on the stock suspension for what it's worth and going to leave the rest until after the first service so I can tell the difference when I put Mark's map on and revalve front and rear.   Rides pretty darn well as is though I must say.

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Welcome to the Italian family that is Moto Guzzi! We may cross paths....if you are in Las Vegas....I live here....have a 2010 SE Tenni version. Todd Eagan got it and set it up for me...I love it....

Welcome to ghetto. Greetings from Ankara / Turkey

hello and welcome, there are lots of ways to improve, read some of the suspension threads :-)

Hi mate,
Beautiful bike.What do you use to polish the heat marks off the metal.I’ve tried some Harley Davidson cutting compounds along with polishing compounds,but have had no success.Any advice would be helpful.
Cheers.

Hi mate,
Beautiful bike.What do you use to polish the heat marks off the metal.I’ve tried some Harley Davidson cutting compounds along with polishing compounds,but have had no success.Any advice would be helpful.
Cheers.

I've tried many compounds. Some of them helped but took lots of time and eford. I am removing pipes every 2 years and taking them to polishing shop. Brush work for half an hour makes them New again.

Thanks everyone!

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What a magnificent figure of a man! He strides like a colossus through the teeming riff-raff of Bungendore!

And wearing the fancy spectacles which render feeler gauges superfluous, whilst performing the GRiSO valve adjustment.

Bummer about the stock tires, I'll look into some new ones soon... (anyone try the Conti Road Attack?)

@Stromgriso: Ethanol is a real shitter, my Aprilia came with the same caveats. So far, keeping the tank low (and evacuating it completely if it sits any length) has prevented problems. Fortunately, there's non-ethanol readily available in my area, albeit 87 octane. (87 is actually not a problem in the Tuono, no idea how the GRiSO will respond... I'm usually riding at 4500+ feet, which helps I suppose.) I noticed a sticker on the GRiSO OK'ing up to E10, but I won't take any chances.

@ecs: Congrats! Beautiful color, I'm sure the Termi sounds amazing. The story I heard from the sales guy at Eurocycle was that they bought the last ten Grisos in the US warehouse (at a good price, hence the sale). I imagine they'll be gone quickly.

@TimC: Love the Tenni (best looking one IMO), unfortunately I'm a ways North from you (Reno).  

@GRiSO Lad: I'm hopeful the beetle map will somewhat ease pipe maintenance. If it becomes too much of a pain, I suppose there's always periodic polishing or ceramic coating. Thankfully it looks like a 5 minute job to pull them off.

Got the Mistral installed over the weekend, bought the beetle map and set up GuzziDiag (interestingly, the FTDI based cable for my BMW seems to work just fine with a small solder blob modification... as does the cheap FTDI clone one (CH380), but I'm not risking using the latter...). Hopefully I'll time to upload the map and get to the valves and throttle body fiddling later this week.

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