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PostSubject: Re: GuzziDiag for non-GRiSOs   Mon Jul 14, 2014 6:01 am

Very Happy

I'll tell you what's weird....
I got the bike back after the initial service. The dealer is a good friend (I bought the Norge from him as well, but he doesn't sell Guzzi anymore, so one reason for the switch) anyway.. it was running like crap. whereas previously it was buttery smooth. So, I thought (based on my guzzi diag training received here) I wonder if the TPS is off somehow?

So you can use a program for the triumph called Tune ECU. Sort of like Guzzi Diag, maybe not as user friendly? Anyway, it has a weird TPS reset feature, not just hit a button and done. You connect the software & tell it to reset while the bike is running, and then wait for the ECU to rest the TPS (light turns green). Did that, problem solved. I do need to talk to Steve about why it happened though. Part of the first service is to check the TPS parameter along w/ other things & he mentioned that this was one of the first bikes he'd seen with everything perfectly in spec....

anyway.

so far so good on life w/ and extra cylinder
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PostSubject: Re: GuzziDiag for non-GRiSOs   Wed Jul 16, 2014 3:25 pm

That's it Mark - map nirvana on the latest one you sent (70FC) - got lots of wild animal with gentlemanly on/off throttle behaviour - thanks heaps. I don't intend to harass you for more (well at this stage anyway).

Anyone (DaveM?) needs a new map for the 2V Sport/Norge/Breva 1200s this could be it! Big call, but Mark has done some wonderful work - torque everywhere, engine braking, goes like stink (as much as a Guzzi goes like stink) and good economy

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PostSubject: Re: GuzziDiag for non-GRiSOs   Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:04 pm

Thank you for your kind words. Much appreciated.  Very Happy 
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PostSubject: Re: GuzziDiag for non-GRiSOs   Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:55 pm

I have a good Breva 1100 map now if you know anyone...


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PostSubject: Re: GuzziDiag for non-GRiSOs   Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:12 pm

beetle wrote:
I have a good Breva 1100 map now if you know anyone...


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if you know anyone.... with a good breva? Laughing 
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PostSubject: Re: GuzziDiag for non-GRiSOs   Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:25 pm

Does the Breva 1100 map fit the GRiSO 1100??
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PostSubject: Re: GuzziDiag for non-GRiSOs   Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:28 pm

You could flash it, and it would run, but why would you want to?

Haven't I sent you a GRiSO 1100 map?
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PostSubject: Re: GuzziDiag for non-GRiSOs   Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:54 am

uhhh, the one I got from the email? yeah. you did. Smile
Now I have to get the cable.

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PostSubject: Re: GuzziDiag for non-GRiSOs   Wed Jul 23, 2014 4:51 pm

Is there a decent map for the new 1400 Cali besides the 3 already included in the ECU?
A friend of mine is thinking about buying one of those and asked me about it...
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PostSubject: Re: GuzziDiag for non-GRiSOs   Wed Jul 23, 2014 5:01 pm

Grisonut wrote:
Is there a decent map for the new 1400 Cali besides the 3 already included in the ECU?
A friend of mine is thinking about buying one of those and asked me about it...

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PostSubject: Re: GuzziDiag for non-GRiSOs   Wed Jul 23, 2014 5:02 pm

DungeonMaster wrote:
Now I have to get the cable.


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PostSubject: Re: GuzziDiag for non-GRiSOs   Wed Jul 23, 2014 5:09 pm

Well it's no biggy cause he didn't test ride that bike I assume but I did, and it didn't feel to me like it was needing anything.
The guy's a geek so he'll probably find something wrong, lol.

Speaking of cables... I need to get me some for me GRiSO.
Keep forgetting...
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PostSubject: Re: GuzziDiag for non-GRiSOs   Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:01 pm

Tere has been one factory upgrade for the Cali 14.

The thing is the Cali uses the 7SM controller and the Tri-map function means that there are three different versions of spark/fueling/'Other Stuff' options rather than simply looking for one 'Best Running' solution as we do with our boring old W5AM equipped bikes.

The Cali 14 fields up pretty well in stock trim, I never used anything other then 'Touring' on mine apart from for novelty purposes. I'm sure economy could be improved but really it *Rides* fine.

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PostSubject: Re: GuzziDiag for non-GRiSOs   Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:12 pm

Thanks Pete.
The one I test rode was smooth. Smile 
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PostSubject: Re: GuzziDiag for non-GRiSOs   Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:27 am

Pete Roper wrote:
Tere has been one factory upgrade for the Cali 14.

The thing is the Cali uses the 7SM controller and the Tri-map function means that there are three different versions of spark/fueling/'Other Stuff' options rather than simply looking for one 'Best Running' solution as we do with our boring old W5AM equipped bikes.

The Cali 14 fields up pretty well in stock trim, I never used anything other then 'Touring' on mine apart from for novelty purposes. I'm sure economy could be improved but really it *Rides* fine.

Pete

Pete, still need a log from writing a cali 1400 map, so if you have one to update, please do logging from that event, Beetle can explain what is needed to do that.

It is: connecting the guzzidiag adapter in parralel with the pads to the bike, then start logging program(I think I send it once), do the update with pads, and stop logging. And send me the logfile.
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PostSubject: Re: GuzziDiag for non-GRiSOs   Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:03 am

Paul, I'll gladly do it, problem is that I only have one customer with a Cali 14! It will be dependent on when he comes out or I can pester him into coming out so I can log it. I'd also like to have Mark nearby to assist so I don't screw something up.

I can hopefully do this with the V7 controller too if needed.

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PostSubject: Re: GuzziDiag for non-GRiSOs   Thu Jul 24, 2014 10:29 am

Yes  Pete, new v7 same thing indeed. And the aprilia bikes with 7sm or 5sm
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PostSubject: Re: GuzziDiag for non-GRiSOs   Fri Aug 29, 2014 8:10 am

Newbie Non-Guzzi Q
I tried Guzidiag on my '06 Ducati Sportclassic and it connected no issues. Same ECU apparently. My question is what happens when you hit the "stepper" under the "actors" menu? This is also the only one under the Engine running so I started it. Should it cycle the idle up and down or what happens? I suspect mine is bad as nothing happens. All the other "actors" work fine when cycled.
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PostSubject: Re: GuzziDiag for non-GRiSOs   Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:47 am

SPEIRMOOR wrote:
Newbie Non-Guzzi Q
I tried Guzidiag on my '06 Ducati Sportclassic and it connected no issues. Same ECU apparently. My question is what happens when you hit the "stepper" under the "actors" menu? This is also the only one under the Engine running so I started it. Should  it cycle the idle up and down or what happens? I suspect mine is bad as nothing happens. All the other "actors" work fine when cycled.

It should work with running engine, and you should be able to notice a rev increase/decrease while activated.
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PostSubject: Re: GuzziDiag for non-GRiSOs   Sun Sep 14, 2014 3:52 pm

Hi y'all,

Been a bit quite at down town Thirroul of late - BUT I did get off to the rally on the weekend. Did a total of 880 km - quite a few of them at (ahem) legal speeds, and some jiggery pokery at the rally (slow races - whoda thunk ) and two trips across Sydney in the process. Managed a very satisfying 5.1 l/100 km - peaked it at 4.7, but the slow race stuffed that...

Thanks Beetle, this one's (the map) a gem
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PostSubject: Re: GuzziDiag for non-GRiSOs   Sat Sep 27, 2014 1:24 am

Just wondering, has anyone done any work on the Bellagio mapping?
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PostSubject: Re: GuzziDiag for non-GRiSOs   Sat Sep 27, 2014 1:30 am

Dunno. Bellagio uses the W5AM controller but has the Cali type TB's, TPS and linkage. Its a bit of a hybrid. Shouldn't make a lot of difference to how the map is built I wouldn't think but that's Mark's area, not mine. I just sit in the corner with the Dunces cap on!

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PostSubject: Re: GuzziDiag for non-GRiSOs   Sat Sep 27, 2014 1:32 am

I've got a roughed in one if you wanna test it for me.  Suspect


..I whipped it up a few months back after Tony asked me if I had one.
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PostSubject: Re: GuzziDiag for non-GRiSOs   Sat Sep 27, 2014 2:02 am

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Its a bit of a hybrid

I don't know if it is possible (to do tps reset) with the latest GuzziDiag version to Bellagio, but a hint noted from Beard back in 7/2013:


Bellagio is the one with the known exception: 5AM ecu and PF3C, manually adjustable TPS.  If you do tps-reset, you will have a problem. The motor runs only with serious difficulties.  Nevertheless this can be solved, but not quite easily: you will have to turn the throttle to ca. 1V voltage (tested  value) and do the tps-reset once more. After this should nearly everything, work again.

So, ATTENTION !


Never  do a tps reset on Bellagio...


This is the source for a nice cable to measure the PF3C voltage easily: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]


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PostSubject: Re: GuzziDiag for non-GRiSOs   Sat Sep 27, 2014 3:24 am

This request was originally for Ghezzi, who has decided to spend his money on wheels instead of outright ECU tickling. Self admittedly, he went shy when GuzziDiag was mentioned.

Still it needs to be done, and someone has got to do it first. Dive in - note the caveats and all should be good.
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