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PostSubject: Boing,Boing   Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:34 pm

Hi,

Not really falling in love with the rear stock shock on the my GRiSO. Fine on my own on flat roads, but one we get into the land of pot holes and bumps i have had to look after my crown jewels for sure. I also take my other half out for short trips and this is not much fun on anything other than reasonably smooth roads. I have started playing with adjustments - but it is all gravy to me [ I am not techy, just know it does not feel right. ]

The front forks are sitting two rings above the yokes - but I dont see any point in moving or adjusting there until the back gets sorted.

I am planning to take to bike to a local suspension/racing set up dealer soon. I have not got a lot of money to throw at this but there must be options for the standard shock like an ohlins spring fitted to it etc.

Can anyone that has added an ohlins spring or added something like the Stelvio longer shock???? Please give me an idea of the improvement and feel of the bike after the change please?

Or..........is this a short term thing and i just start saving.

One bonus is I have found I have a PCV fitted!

Cheers,
Ian/Blue.
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PostSubject: Re: Boing,Boing   Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:03 pm

Short term tolerance, re-arrange your budget and buy top quality kit asap.
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PostSubject: Re: Boing,Boing   Thu Sep 04, 2014 12:42 am

ghezzi wrote:
Short term tolerance, re-arrange your budget and buy top quality kit asap.

Fair comment - will start looking at products and pricing for a decent unit and go that way when I have the money.

Thank you for the response.
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PostSubject: Re: Boing,Boing   Thu Sep 04, 2014 1:07 am

Not sure of your weight but I am, shall we say, on the lower end of the avg American girth (10 stone in British parlance) which means every bike is too stiff for me. I've found that just replacing the springs helps a lot. It's not the perfect solution, but while you save your pennies it's a very cheap solution, and maybe you'll find you don't need perfect. There's also the chance that the spring can be reused should you get some high-zoot shock, saving a little.

Your idea of a suspension guru visit is good (provided they're the kind that will do a "small" setup job and not turn away anyone not throwing down on 1K$ on new stuff or a revalve, etc) - since they can get you a spring, install it and then fiddle the knobs to get your preload, compression and rebound set properly.

In the meantime - have you tried adjusting anything? If not, and you're game, record the current settings and try a few *small* changes - like taking out 1 or 2 clicks of compression damping, reducing the preload and maybe a click or two of rebound (all described in the manual). There's a chance your compression is a big factor in what you are feeling now. It's also possible that when you check to see what the current settings are you find someone before you has changed the settings from stock. I believe the owners manual also lists the orig settings.

And a warning! Changes at the back can (will) affect the front - i.e. softening things up at the back may make the front feel stiff, cause slower steering, etc. so you may end up making small changes at the front to match what you're doing at the back. The idea here is small change, ride and evaluate, return to prev. setting if you don't like the change.
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PostSubject: Re: Boing,Boing   Thu Sep 04, 2014 2:17 am

tocino wrote:
Not sure of your weight but I am, shall we say, on the lower end of the avg American girth (10 stone in British parlance) which means every bike is too stiff for me. I've found that just replacing the springs helps a lot. It's not the perfect solution, but while you save your pennies it's a very cheap solution, and maybe you'll find you don't need perfect. There's also the chance that the spring can be reused should you get some high-zoot shock, saving a little.

Your idea of a suspension guru visit is good (provided they're the kind that will do a "small" setup job and not turn away anyone not throwing down on 1K$ on new stuff or a revalve, etc) - since they can get you a spring, install it and then fiddle the knobs to get your preload, compression and rebound set properly.

In the meantime - have you tried adjusting anything? If not, and you're game, record the current settings and try a few *small* changes - like taking out 1 or 2 clicks of compression damping, reducing the preload and maybe a click or two of rebound (all described in the manual). There's a chance your compression is a big factor in what you are feeling now. It's also possible that when you check to see what the current settings are you find someone before you has changed the settings from stock. I believe the owners manual also lists the orig settings.

And a warning! Changes at the back can (will) affect the front - i.e. softening things up at the back may make the front feel stiff, cause slower steering, etc. so you may end up making small changes at the front to match what you're doing at the back. The idea here is small change, ride and evaluate, return to prev. setting if you don't like the change.

Thanks, Well up to the point where I can afford a change of shock, I guess that I will have a go at making some changes to settings. I have only ever made a few minor changes before so it will be as you suggest and just make minor adjustments and record what i do. I need to find a stretch of road that will support the testing as well.

Thank you for the input.
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PostSubject: Re: Boing,Boing   Thu Sep 04, 2014 7:22 am

being in the uk you have a lot of choices, have a nitron built. or head to k-tech. go back and look through the threads on suspension we have had here and you will get a good idea of what you want to have done.
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