Living room finds

Squinternotto Posts : 6 Join date : 2023-11-20

Hello GRiSO people,
I would like to share my enthusiasm with you.
I have been riding motorcycles for almost 40 years. After the entire series of Honda's (350,500, 750 and CBX) I have ridden many brands. I had a Le Mans in the early 90s and I thought it was a special bike. I have now a Duc 900 SS IE for several years, which is also a nice bike. Secretly I keep looking at a Guzzi. A few weeks ago I was in a motorcycle shop where the salesman asked me what I wanted. I said I wasn't looking for anything but if I see something I like I might buy it. He told me that he had traded in a GRiSO with 470 km on the odometer and that it came from a living room as a piece of jewelry.
I must have that, was my thought.
And here I picked it up last Friday.
Completely new, great.

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GRiSO Capo Posts : 10420 Join date : 2013-05-29 Age : 67

So what year is it?

Grignapoco Posts : 149 Join date : 2017-09-25

Oh my! A red 1200! Well, you've got yourself a great canvas...likely have some tasks to execute before you go off on tour. But WOW. Congratulations.

Carlotto Posts : 39 Join date : 2023-09-23

Welcome to this forum!

Wow! the milage is exceptional! I thought mine at 8000km was pretty close to new!

A few weeks ago I had mine picked up to a mechanic for rollerisation. I spend some time on this topic and I realised it is a mandatory modification. You have to take into acount you may have this mod in future.

I had a 750ss, Monster900, TT2 and 900SSie and disliked the ie the most. Mainly the wrist pressure...

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Squinternotto Posts : 6 Join date : 2023-11-20

According to the license plate, it was first registered in 2014, but according to the chassis number, it left the factory in 2008.

Squinternotto Posts : 6 Join date : 2023-11-20

ErikdeBrabander wrote:: Welcome to this forum!

Wow! the milage is exceptional! I thought mine at 8000km was pretty close to new!

A few weeks ago I had mine picked up to a mechanic for rollerisation. I spend some time on this topic and I realised it is a mandatory modification. You have to take into acount you may have this mod in future.

I had a 750ss, Monster900, TT2 and 900SSie and disliked the ie the most. Mainly the wrist pressure...

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Before delivery I had everything done, the gearbox shaft and engine oil were replaced and I also had the brake fluid replaced.
New tires and of course the modification. The latest version of the software has also been installed.
I am ready.

Grignapoco Posts : 149 Join date : 2017-09-25

René S wrote:: According to the license plate, it was first registered in 2014, but according to the chassis number, it left the factory in 2008.

Nice. My bike was built in Sept of '08, so they're genetically close. Simply wonderful machine.

As you likely know by now, your motor 100% absolutely was built with flat tappets which must be changed unless done previously, which is a possibility given that it's initial licensing happened after the factory and the 'marketplace' had become aware of the problem. If you’re REALLY lucky, that bike was rollerized professionally when sold and you're in high cotton...if not you need to find a c-kit.

required reading:

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Hope this doesn't come as a surprise or bad news to you, but with that mileage you've got a wonderful bike in your hands regardless. Best of luck! Welcome to the ghetto.

Fra Cristoforo Posts : 768 Join date : 2016-04-14

Most of the time the dealer sitting on a new model will do all recalls & bulletins due for that bike before it's sold to be registered.
Red ones are faster! Welcome, Ride Safe

GRiSO Capo Posts : 10420 Join date : 2013-05-29 Age : 67

The problem is 'Rollerisation' was never a recall or specified update. It may be 'Up to date' with factory 'Upgrades' but the only one that applied to the 2008 motor was the swap from the original cast iron flat tappets to the forged steel ones with a DLC coating. They didn't fix the failure problem.

The only way to know for sure if your bike has been rollerised is to whip off a rocker cover and have a look. It takes 15 minutes. Just do it, then you'll know for sure.

Oh, and if they haven't been done it will need the swingarm bearings and shock linkage bearings greasing and it's a good idea to Loctite the final drive pinion nut while the bevelbox is off. Clutch fluid should be done as well as brake fluid and then replaced on a yearly/10,000km basis.

If you're lucky you won't suffer from the leaky rear main bearing flange issue.

Squinternotto Posts : 6 Join date : 2023-11-20

kidsmoke wrote:

René S wrote:: According to the license plate, it was first registered in 2014, but according to the chassis number, it left the factory in 2008.

Nice. My bike was built in Sept of '08, so they're genetically close. Simply wonderful machine.

As you likely know by now, your motor 100% absolutely was built with flat tappets which must be changed unless done previously, which is a possibility given that it's initial licensing happened after the factory and the 'marketplace' had become aware of the problem. If your REALLY lucky, that bike was rollerized professionally when sold and you're in high cotton...if not you need to find a c-kit.

required reading:

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Hope this doesn't come as a surprise or bad news to you, but with that mileage you've got a wonderful bike in your hands regardless. Best of luck! Welcome to the ghetto.

My motorcycle received kit C before delivery, which was a requirement of mine.

Squinternotto Posts : 6 Join date : 2023-11-20

Pete Roper wrote:: The problem is 'Rollerisation' was never a recall or specified update. It may be 'Up to date' with factory 'Upgrades' but the only one that applied to the 2008 motor was the swap from the original cast iron flat tappets to the forged steel ones with a DLC coating. They didn't fix the failure problem.

The only way to know for sure if your bike has been rollerised is to whip off a rocker cover and have a look. It takes 15 minutes. Just do it, then you'll know for sure.

Oh, and if they haven't been done it will need the swingarm bearings and shock linkage bearings greasing and it's a good idea to Loctite the final drive pinion nut while the bevelbox is off. Clutch fluid should be done as well as brake fluid and then replaced on a yearly/10,000km basis.

If you're lucky you won't suffer from the leaky rear main bearing flange issue.

At my request they removed the valve covers so that we could take a look, the motorcycle shop in question is also an MG dealer and it was not yet rollerised, but now it is.
Thanks for the information

GRiSO Capo Posts : 10420 Join date : 2013-05-29 Age : 67

Sweet! That's the one 'Big Ticket' item and if it was covered you're golden! cheers

Grignapoco Posts : 149 Join date : 2017-09-25

René S wrote:: My motorcycle received kit C before delivery, which was a requirement of mine.

You found a unicorn! Looking forward to your ride reports

GRiSO Capo Posts : 815 Join date : 2014-05-06

Wow... you are one lucky guy!! What a find. Congratulations! And welcome to the Ghetto.

Grignapoco Posts : 102 Join date : 2020-02-29 Age : 59

Mooie brommer. Gefeliciteerd met de aanwinst!

Biondino Posts : 210 Join date : 2020-10-17

René S wrote:: Hello GRiSO people,
I would like to share my enthusiasm with you.
I have been riding motorcycles for almost 40 years. After the entire series of Honda's (350,500, 750 and CBX) I have ridden many brands. I had a Le Mans in the early 90s and I thought it was a special bike. I have now a Duc 900 SS IE for several years, which is also a nice bike. Secretly I keep looking at a Guzzi. A few weeks ago I was in a motorcycle shop where the salesman asked me what I wanted. I said I wasn't looking for anything but if I see something I like I might buy it. He told me that he had traded in a GRiSO with 470 km on the odometer and that it came from a living room as a piece of jewelry.
I must have that, was my thought.
And here I picked it up last Friday.
Completely new, great.

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Holy cow great score! Buyer beware though, once all the above mentioned are sorted you can easily put 67,500 miles on that big block in just over 4 years......Enjoy

Tanabuso Posts : 69 Join date : 2022-09-19 Age : 56

15 years old and at the same time brand spanking new in showroom-condition – what a find!

I had to laugh when I had a look at the prices charged for used 1100s in Austria two days ago: around 7.000 Euro with mileages between 15k and 25k. My 1100 with 26k at 4.600 Euro was a steal in comparison. May I ask what you payed? Those bikes were about 15.000 Euro new from the dealer back then.

Squinternotto Posts : 6 Join date : 2023-11-20

el capitan wrote:: 15 years old and at the same time brand spanking new in showroom-condition – what a find!

I had to laugh when I had a look at the prices charged for used 1100s in Austria two days ago: around 7.000 Euro with mileages between 15k and 25k. My 1100 with 26k at 4.600 Euro was a steal in comparison. May I ask what you payed? Those bikes were about 15.000 Euro new from the dealer back then.

I was looking at a GRiSO between €5000 and €8000, I think my estimated value would be somewhere between €8000 and €10,000. I paid less for it with a complete service and a roller treatment.

Squinternotto Posts : 1 Join date : 2023-10-14 Age : 61

What an incredible opportunity.
You will enjoy this beautiful motorcycle for many years.
Follow the forum and find out if the few birth defects have been fixed and then...Gone with the wind..
cheers

Squinternotto Posts : 6 Join date : 2022-12-30 Age : 30

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