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PostSubject: Oil Filters   Thu Sep 19, 2013 12:33 pm

I was just reading the "Cost of first service" thread where someone asked about reusable oil filters.  It reminded me of a similar discussion about oil filters on the Wild Guzzi forum.  In that discussion someone (not me) pointed to a web site where oil filters were dissected and compared.  I thought you guys would find it interesting.  Here is a link to the site:  Oil Filter Comparison

Note: The reusable filters were not discussed or compared.

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PostSubject: Re: Oil Filters   Fri Sep 20, 2013 11:15 am

I always use the Hi-Flo HF551 filters that I can pick up from Moto International for about $9.

Alternatively, they are also available from [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] where I get my MOTUL 10W60 Full Synthetic motor oil. The Hi-Flo HF551 filters are only $4.84, so might as well pick some up along with your oils...

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PostSubject: Re: Oil Filters   Tue Sep 24, 2013 5:23 am

Thanks Eric for the link.
Just purchase a Hi-Flo here in Australia,$20.00.
Must cost a lot to send downunder.
Unless we are being ripped off again.

Harry
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PostSubject: Re: Oil Filters   Sun Jan 05, 2014 10:24 am

I've been using the HiFlo filters as well, before that, the discontinued Purolator 16822.
I now use the Bosh 3330 because it's right off the shelves from my local part store.
I still keep a least 2 spares all the time at the house, just in case...
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PostSubject: Re: Oil Filters   Tue Jan 07, 2014 4:58 pm

14 flat unis in a 10 pak,
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PostSubject: Re: Oil Filters   Sun Jan 19, 2014 9:07 pm

I have used this style filter in multiple bike for many miles. My diesel friends swear by them.

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PostSubject: Re: Oil Filters   Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:48 am

Love to know how such a filtering medium can work as well as a disposable paper element?

Shitty snake oil sold by crooks IMHO. You want to risk your engine? Be my guest.

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PostSubject: Re: Oil Filters   Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:49 am

Pete,

I'm trying to think of the best wording for this....I have read your other posts and I respect and appreciate your opinions. However, I would never call a company crooks with out some evidence showing that they maliciously steal my money by selling a product known to destroy engines?  I have over 50k of mileage on different bikes using Scotts filters (k&P engineering), so I do have direct experience with this product. I have to assume you also have direct experience with this product as I just can't imagine someone having such strong opinions based on no experience or strong evidence.
If resin impregnated paper fibers are your cup of tea, good on ya.  But really calling someone "crooks"?

Jeremy
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PostSubject: Re: Oil Filters   Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:59 am

Exploiting the gullibility of others has always struck me as fairly dishonest. YOMV. That's fine. I'd rather eat worms than allow something like that near my bike. I wouldn't fit an 'Oil Cooler' dipstick either! Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Oil Filters   Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:15 am

Now I'm gullible. Do you have anything else? wow.
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PostSubject: Re: Oil Filters   Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:37 am

Interest in the company have we? Such umbrage looks suspiciously like trolling to me.

Look, if people want to remove something, try and clean it, (How? Few people have an ultrasonic cleaner in their workshops.) and then reinstall it, risking returning debris to their engines rather than simply removing the contaminated article and replacing it with a new one that is fine by me. I wouldn't suggest it to any of my customers as a wise idea.

If 'Re-usable' filtering media were a cost effective, reliable, alternative do you not think they would of been universally adopted within the automotive industry? They haven't. QED.

Also what is going to be the advantage in terms of cost over the lifetime of the engine and how will that lifetime be extended? I see no pluses and many minuses here.

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PostSubject: Re: Oil Filters   Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:08 am

Sorry, not a troll and If we were at a bar I would buy you a drink and we would have a great conversation, even though you have now called me gullible and a troll.
I never find spending time working on my bike annoying and cleaning the filter is easy (I have and use an ultrasonic cleaner). If you want cheap, fast and easy stick with the paper filter. However I would say that the auto industry makes a shit ton of money selling filters to customers so why stray from the proven formula, I don't blame them. My original post was just my input on another option for everyone, hardly trolling, I didn't even call anyone names. I'll try and be better "company" from now on. I'm finished with this, to each his own.


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PostSubject: Re: Oil Filters   Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:01 pm

Fine? Personally I would strongly discourage anybody from using a 'Re-useable' filter. The chances of introducing contaminants into the most important, hard to get at and expensive parts of the motor is, in my opinion, too great. I also, despite the claims, doubt that it would be anywhere near as effective as a properly constructed spin on with a paper element. I feel exactly the same about air filters, lots of people disagree with me there too.

Your original suggestion was offering another option? OK, my original response was simply replying with a differing opinion. Where's the problem?

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PostSubject: Re: Oil Filters   Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:54 pm

Just to put into perspective the filtration of scotts filter vs the factory or close eq.

scotts passes 99-100% of <35 micron particles, and blocks 99-99.8% of those larger.

The very good paper filters will hold 97-98% of 5 to 10 microns and pass .01%-.03% or so of particles at >35 microns. (there are worse than this but this is about right for a quality element)

Just for perspective 35 microns is .0015" or right at 1/4 of the intake valve clearance, or pretty much all of the main bearing clearance. (or about 400 grit grinding compound) Shocked 

I am familiar with these filters and they can be hard to clean, but have only seen them used on Mx race bikes...but they got fresh oil every race, usually they broke in some catastrophic way so hard to tell if they were a problem. the old xs-650 seemed to last pretty good with just 2 strainers, but they got oil every 1000mi if you were smart.
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