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Pete Roper GRiSO Capo
Posts : 10724 Join date : 2013-05-29 Age : 67
| Subject: Well I never! Fri Feb 19, 2016 10:50 am | |
| A few months ago one of the members here kindly sent me his Pazzo brake and clutch levers. Well the other day I finally got around to fitting them and I'm absolutely gobsmacked by what a difference they've made!
Previously I'd swapped out the stock levers, which I was never happy with as they seemed to trigger my arthritis, for some of the readily available Hong Kong aftermarket units. These worked well enough but they didn't *feel* particularly good and control was seemingly less than subtle. With the change to the Pazzos it's been a revelation! Despite the angles and dimensions being identical the Pazzos have superb *feel* and for some reason give a level of control and confidence that completely overshadows their cheaper counterparts from HK! I have no idea why this should be so but truly it is! Amazing!
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beetle GRiSO Capo
Posts : 10203 Join date : 2013-09-30
| Subject: Re: Well I never! Fri Feb 19, 2016 12:11 pm | |
| Psychosomatic? Or could it be, the Pazzo levers are actually magical? Seriously, they probably are ever so slightly different in shape and curvature. --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- ..[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.].In GRiSO we trust! . | |
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LBC Tenni GRiSO Capo
Posts : 956 Join date : 2014-06-05
| Subject: Re: Well I never! Fri Feb 19, 2016 12:50 pm | |
| You can get a glass of good Chianti in Hong Kong, but it can never be great like the same glass of Chianti you had in Siena. Or in this case, Canada. | |
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Pete Roper GRiSO Capo
Posts : 10724 Join date : 2013-05-29 Age : 67
| Subject: Re: Well I never! Fri Feb 19, 2016 3:06 pm | |
| - beetle wrote:
- Psychosomatic? Or could it be, the Pazzo levers are actually magical?
Seriously, they probably are ever so slightly different in shape and curvature. I think it's just that their shap and fit are superior to the knock-offs. I was really surprised by how much better they are. Certainly the profile of the front of the lever where you exert the pressure is far superior. Pete | |
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Primitial Carlotto
Posts : 25 Join date : 2015-08-09 Age : 32
| Subject: Re: Well I never! Fri Feb 19, 2016 8:41 pm | |
| The first thing I purchased for my GRiSO in July was some silver Pazzo levers @ the recommendation of AF1Racing and I love them.. I have the adjustable short levers in silver and black. | |
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Steak Godfather
Posts : 3154 Join date : 2013-05-28 Age : 59
| Subject: Re: Well I never! Sat Feb 20, 2016 11:11 am | |
| I've had the "Crazy" levers on my GRiSO since 2007 GRiSO #1. They've survived a few get offs at both high and low speeds no worse for the wear. The quality is superb, I put cheap, Chinese knock-offs on the Stelvio and the difference is remarkable.
They are spendy, but the Pazzos are built to last. --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]2012 MOTO GUZZI GRiSO 1200SE2013 MOTO GUZZI STELVIO 1200NTX - Orange Blossom Special | |
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Scot p Grignapoco
Posts : 148 Join date : 2014-01-20
| Subject: Re: Well I never! Sun Feb 21, 2016 1:14 pm | |
| Took a MV Brutale 800 for a spin on Friday(they didnt have a f3 test bike), engine meh, brakes holey farrrrrrrrk but at 50 kg lighter than a GRiSO its probably to be expected...
also had a go on the brutale 675, loved the engine was just angrier than its big brother revs to 15K...
Back on topic, maybe its time to think about a brake upgrade for the GRiSO, after i get the roller tappets done.
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| Subject: Re: Well I never! Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:35 pm | |
| I can get you ISR one piece billet radial 6 piston/6pad calipers (rear is 4 piston/4pad) in Titanium if you wish, less than AUD$4000 These are axial mounted, fronts weigh 406g each, rear weighs 127g. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]" /> |
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pauldaytona Fra Cristoforo
Posts : 477 Join date : 2014-01-07
| Subject: Re: Well I never! Mon Feb 22, 2016 3:47 pm | |
| Yes I did try the 800 MV, and brakes were great, maybe even to much. Might indeed have to do with the weight. But I have the monoblock brembo radials, and they are good too. ANd cheap as they come of ducati/mv/ktm superbikes that get totaled all the time. What finishes it, is a radial pump. I have it on the daytona, not yet on the stelvio. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] | |
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mark111 GRiSO Capo
Posts : 279 Join date : 2014-04-23
| Subject: Re: Well I never! Mon Feb 22, 2016 6:54 pm | |
| Brakes will be improved if you throw away the stock pads and fit a set of HH pads, the EBC ones seem to work well on many Grisos and will improve performance and feel. As Paul suggested a properly matched radial master cylinder will improve things further. A lot of people have used Brembo etc., I fitted a nissin one which I purchased from Japan because it is well made, was more reasonably priced and the clincher I can get parts to repair it which is not always possible or easy for the Italian stuff. Keep in mind if you are not on a race track with a known and consistent surface having mega brakes without the ABS system newer bikes are running could be nasty, good and progressive feel is probably more important for a road bike then ultimate power. | |
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FreshEgg Grignapoco
Posts : 103 Join date : 2013-09-11
| Subject: Re: Well I never! Mon Feb 22, 2016 7:57 pm | |
| Paul: Those are sweet! Can you give some guidance as to what terms to use when buying a used set off ebay: brembo model number; brembo description ("monobloc"?); bikes fitted to; etc. Assume the bolt centers are same, same. While i'm on this vein: What other bikes use same Showa fork as GRiSO? Suzuki GSXR 600 and 750, right? What year? I'm mulling about the idea of a forged aluminum wheel as GRiSO front wheels are pretty rare for how mundane they are. Again, any guidance most appreciated. Thanks! JL - pauldaytona wrote:
- Yes I did try the 800 MV, and brakes were great, maybe even to much. Might indeed have to do with the weight. But I have the monoblock brembo radials, and they are good too. ANd cheap as they come of ducati/mv/ktm superbikes that get totaled all the time. What finishes it, is a radial pump. I have it on the daytona, not yet on the stelvio.
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pauldaytona Fra Cristoforo
Posts : 477 Join date : 2014-01-07
| Subject: Re: Well I never! Wed Feb 24, 2016 6:05 am | |
| european bikes mostly have the 100mm spacing, only not shure about triumph. 10098/1198/diavel, 2014 14 KTM 1290 Super Duke R, some MV Look for brembo M4 monobloc I used original brake lines, they come a bit in an angle but it works. From usa this looks best now: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]for australia, this, only size is a question, it can be 100 or 108, he states ducati also, so ask first what it is now. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] | |
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FreshEgg Grignapoco
Posts : 103 Join date : 2013-09-11
| Subject: Re: Well I never! Wed Feb 24, 2016 8:44 pm | |
| Look for brembo M4 monobloc
"Brembo M4", OK, got it!
Thanks again, Paul.
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