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PostSubject: clutch life   Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:42 am

Hello.
I am not sure current owner but was thinking about a 2012 or newer.
What kind of life on average does a dry clutch last?
Are the guzzi's as reliable as the japs?
Any and all thoughts welcomed!

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PostSubject: Re: clutch life   Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:01 pm

Anything built after the middle of 2012 has the roller top end and is fairly bulletproof.

As for clutch life? There was a bad run of clutches in 2012, they seem to have mainly gone in Stelvios but I'm wondering about the one in my 2012 motor I've recently slipped into my GRiSO as it sometimes makes a funny noise when hot. Generally though clutches are very long lived.

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PostSubject: Re: clutch life   Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:09 pm

Hello Pete and thank you. What kind of miles is long life?
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PostSubject: Re: clutch life   Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:27 pm

How long is a piece of string? Obviously a clutch is a wear part, it it is used in anger it will wear out quicker than if it's treated gently. Having said that I haven't had to replace a single plate clutch on any 8V yet because it had worn out. When I swapped the powerplants in my bike the original clutch had done 96,000km and was still working fine and while I'm usually very easy on both clutches and brakes I did like to wheelie it a bit for shit and giggles so it wasn't as if I'd always treated it with kid gloves.

I have several customers with bikes with similar distances travelled and no problems.

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PostSubject: Re: clutch life   Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:33 pm

Pete Roper wrote:
How long is a piece of string?

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Twice, half its length Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: clutch life   Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:25 pm

MrGPz wrote:
Pete Roper wrote:
How long is a piece of string?

Pete

Twice, half its length Laughing
I used to own a Honda transverse Vtwin CX65E Eurosport so that is part of the reason I an thinking about a Guzzi.
Buying used, is it a big job to replace the clutch if the previous owner was hard on it?
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PostSubject: Re: clutch life   Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:37 pm

Nah, not really.

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That's a Stelvio but it's the same schtick.
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PostSubject: Re: clutch life   Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:40 pm

Pete Roper wrote:
Nah, not really.

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That's a Stelvio but it's the same schtick.
Wow my Honda was an hour job without taking the engine out. How many hours do you think think has there?
Thanks for the help so far
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PostSubject: Re: clutch life   Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:57 pm

I can probably turn a GRiSO clutch over in a day but I've got a lot of experience pulling engines I and out. Honda clutch was on the front was it not? GUzzi clutch is between engine and gearbox in common automotive fashion.
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PostSubject: Re: clutch life   Tue Dec 20, 2016 2:03 pm

Does the Guzzi have separate gear oil or is it like my CX.. oil was used for both tranny and top

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PostSubject: Re: clutch life   Tue Dec 20, 2016 2:05 pm

Separate oils.
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PostSubject: Re: clutch life   Tue Dec 20, 2016 2:07 pm

The only thing I don't like about the GRiSO is the flat paint. I grew up with shiny paint jobs Smile
Did they ever have glossy paint?
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PostSubject: Re: clutch life   Tue Dec 20, 2016 2:40 pm

Yup, black, white and red. Thing is I believe they are all flat tappet bikes so caveat emptor.

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PostSubject: Re: clutch life   Tue Dec 20, 2016 2:53 pm

Does the GRiSO have kick ass torque from a standing start or is it more of a rever
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PostSubject: Re: clutch life   Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:07 pm

A property mapped GRiSO has enough bottom end to pull down small buildings.

Even more amazing is that Roper can pop a wheelie. Shocked



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PostSubject: Re: clutch life   Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:10 pm

beetle wrote:
A property mapped GRiSO has enough bottom end to pull down small building.

Even more amazing is that Roper can pop a wheelie. Shocked



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That's cool! When I was a young lad I would wheelie the eurosport in 2nd gear. How do you find it in the twisties?
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PostSubject: Re: clutch life   Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:30 pm

It can be hard work. The long wheelbase and large rake means heaps of understeer. Pulling the fork legs up through the triple clamps helps, but a longer rear shock does wonders. GRiSO is heavy, so a smooth line works best. Leave it in 3rd or 4th and let those big jugs haul you with on-rails handling.


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PostSubject: Re: clutch life   Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:35 pm

beetle wrote:
It can be hard work. The long wheelbase and large rake means heaps of understeer. Pulling the fork legs up through the triple clamps helps, but a longer rear shock does wonders. GRiSO is heavy, so a smooth line works best. Leave it in 3rd or 4th and let those big jugs haul you with on-rails handling.


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What year I yours? Has the design changed since your model?
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PostSubject: Re: clutch life   Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:41 pm

2010. There's been no changes to frame or suspension. Newer models have a lighter clutch pull, changes to valve covers and sump. And rollers, of course.




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PostSubject: Re: clutch life   Mon Jan 02, 2017 9:35 am

Pete Roper wrote:
Nah, not really.

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That's a Stelvio but it's the same schtick.

Pete,

Are you trying to make my nightmares return?? Suspect  Every time I see this picture (or the very similar ones I have), I start to develop a nervous tic again.  Wink

Happy to report that my clutch has performed admirably for the entire season, this year.  Thanks again for all your help!

Cheers,
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