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PostSubject: Arrow muffler, Any Beetle maps?   Thu Jun 01, 2017 10:30 am

I am looking at this  

71669PRI - SILENCER EXHAUST ARROW PRO-RACING S. STEEL MOTO GUZZI GRiSO 1200

It comes with the DB killer but no mention of a CAT.I think I saw that some got one of these but I am
a bit leery of it unless I can get a new map.

Price is $379, a bargain!


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PostSubject: Re: Arrow muffler, Any Beetle maps?   Thu Jun 01, 2017 2:35 pm

Steak uses the Mistral Hi-Pipe NodBk map in his GRiSO with Arrow, I believe. He might be able to tell you how it performs.



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PostSubject: Re: Arrow muffler, Any Beetle maps?   Thu Jun 01, 2017 2:51 pm

Thanks, got a PM to Steak right now.

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PostSubject: Re: Arrow muffler, Any Beetle maps?   Thu Jun 01, 2017 5:37 pm

Everything above is correct. No cat-con in the can, I AM running the Mistral High-pipe no dBK map and I grin from ear to ear every time I give it the berries!

Like I said in my PM response. The ARROW can is by far the best bang for the buck out there and the build quality is second to none. All parts of the ARROW exhaust system built for the GRiSO are interchangeable with the OEM parts. So pick and choose whatever suits your tastes.

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PostSubject: Re: Arrow muffler, Any Beetle maps?   Fri Jun 02, 2017 10:17 am

Thanks Steak

Cant wait till it comes!

The description says racing but I think its really the same muffler.

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PostSubject: Re: Arrow muffler, Any Beetle maps?   Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:47 am

By the way, the Mistral High-pipe no dBK map is excellent!
This pipe is a bit noisier than stock but its a nice raspy sound. Oddly enough it seems to only get louder up to 4,000 rims then it seems to have the same volume as the stock pipe.

or I have gone deaf..
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PostSubject: Re: Arrow muffler, Any Beetle maps?   Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:30 pm

Triman023 wrote:
By the way, the Mistral High-pipe no dBK map is excellent!
This pipe is a bit noisier than stock but its a nice raspy sound. Oddly enough it seems to only get louder up to 4,000 rims then it seems to have the same volume as the stock pipe.

or I have gone deaf..


Maybe you are in ZX12 territory
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PostSubject: Re: Arrow muffler, Any Beetle maps?   Tue Sep 26, 2017 4:54 pm

Triman023 wrote:
By the way, the Mistral High-pipe no dBK map is excellent!
This pipe is a bit noisier than stock but its a nice raspy sound. Oddly enough it seems to only get louder up to 4,000 rims then it seems to have the same volume as the stock pipe.

or I have gone deaf..

You are going faster than the sound can catch. Awesome
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PostSubject: Re: Arrow muffler, Any Beetle maps?   Wed Sep 27, 2017 5:06 am

Who sells it for that price?
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PostSubject: Re: Arrow muffler, Any Beetle maps?   Sun Oct 01, 2017 1:32 pm

I have the Arrow, it sounds great, i had the Beetle factory map, for when i ran the stock exhaust and the map worked well on both the factory and the Arrow exhaust.
I have since, last week, installed the Beetel Hi Mistral Map No dBK as recommended above.

The bike still needs a minute to warm up, otherwise the power delivery, smoothness, and economy has greatly improved.
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PostSubject: Re: Arrow muffler, Any Beetle maps?   Sun Oct 01, 2017 3:43 pm

I can fix that.


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PostSubject: Re: Arrow muffler, Any Beetle maps?   Sun Oct 01, 2017 7:56 pm

beetle wrote:
I can fix that.


cheers

On startup from cold, 15°C at my place, it will idle OK with an occasional hiccup.
If i ride straight away, it misses quite badly and i have to pull in the clutch and nurse it away a bit.
Literally 1-2 minutes and it will pull cleanly.

To be fair it is perfectly acceptable, but if it is possible to get rid of the stumble, that would be great.
Note: don't know if it is relevant but, altitude is sea level. Bike is garaged with a minimum of ambient of 13°C in winter.
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PostSubject: Re: Arrow muffler, Any Beetle maps?   Mon Oct 02, 2017 11:58 am

I got mine from GRS in Perugia, Italy. The VAT tax is waved for non-EU purchasers but with international shipping it's pretty much a wash. Call or email as they have someone on staff who does speak English.

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PostSubject: Re: Arrow muffler, Any Beetle maps?   Tue Oct 03, 2017 12:33 am

beetle wrote:
I can fix that.


cheers

Fixed!!, thanks for the maps, will test out this weekend on an organised 800km ride

Glenn
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PostSubject: Re: Arrow muffler, Any Beetle maps?   Tue Oct 03, 2017 12:48 am

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PostSubject: Re: Arrow muffler, Any Beetle maps?   Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:22 pm

Ok, so I've done 1200+kays on the Beetle Arrow map.
My seat of the pants, observations are;
Power/torque - more power/torque over the rev range, although rarely did I get over 6500rpm.

Fuel economy - this is difficult, as the map enables you to ride quicker more easily. The fuel economy display is quite often wrong. It took me a while to work it out, but, the display must calculate economy based on throttle position, fuel delivery etc. In the twisties, my economy increases dramatically, it has been down to 5.1L/100k. on the straights, the economy drops to over 6L/100k. I think the economy meter can't keep up with the quickly changing throttle in the twisties.

Overall, i think the difference to both the stock map and the Beetle stock map is quite noticeable.


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