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Goes like stink. Who cares if it pops?
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Has some engine braking. And a bunny.
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Has bulk engine braking and no pops.
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Has it all. Including the bunny.
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beetle
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Not much to talk about. Bolt on a Mistrial Hi-Pipe, adjust valves, balance the throttle bodies, install map.




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I'm not a fan of the high pipe, Would the conical do as good a job ?
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What is needed to get more torque you mentioned ? How much "more torque" is possible ?
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These maps, Bill, simply deliver a pretty much flat torque curve from idle to around 7500 rpm, the rest is probably moot anyway. These maps do for the bike what the factory has never done and have been developed over quite a few years. no bullshit claims, just fat torque everywhere.

I have one of Beetle's maps, 1200 Sport, 2V, and can pull cleanly from 2000 rpm in 6th gear (approx 60 km/h) all the way to red line ( on mine that's 8400 ) - the problem is I start to run out of road at 200 km/h and the thought of a bluey tames me somewhat. Fuel consumption is usually less than 5.0 l/100 km, to boot. I know this is not an 8V but the principles are exactly the same.

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Bill Dee wrote:
I'm not a fan of the high pipe,  Would the conical do as good a job ?  


No.


Bill Dee wrote:
What is needed to get more torque you mentioned ?  How much "more torque" is possible ?  


It'll never make as much torque as that Triumph monster you own. The way to get the best torque curve from the 8V is to slow down the exhaust. The easiest way is to increase the exhaust length, hence the Hi-Pipe.




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How much torque is sacrificed between the high pipe and the conical ?
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I don't have any dyno charts for comparison.




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Bill Dee wrote:
How much torque is sacrificed between the high pipe and the conical ?  

I doubt enough to make you jealous.  I run the mistral high/no dbk map on my Arrow conical and have been very happy for years. Just do good service. Set your valves, balance your TBs, load up a Beetle map, and enjoy a fine running GRiSO.

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That Arrow has a nice sound.
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