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PostSubject: Re: New Adventure V85?   Sun Jul 08, 2018 6:46 pm

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Still quite a negative band-waggon  happening on here. The most endearing thing about Guzzi's is their originality and uniquness imho. lets see what actually comes from the factory and opine then.


Did you actually read that marketing rubbish?

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An engine that is so modern that it even impacts on the frame design, becoming an integral part of the vehicle. Thanks to more rigid side covers and longer forks, the V85's precision and driveability on the road are top notch, even at high speed


It's a 2 valve pushrod engine that's a part of the frame? That's neither new, original or unique.


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PostSubject: Re: New Adventure V85?   Sun Jul 08, 2018 6:58 pm

And it's that sort of odious piffle that is going to do for it in the sales department.

They'll keep lying about it and talking it up and then it will be released to the retards who masquerade as 'Journalists' who will take it to an optimistic dyno and when they find it doesn't even come close to their fantasy figures they'll pan it and it will sell like rat sandwiches.

It's not that it will be a *Bad* bike. It's just the way they are trying to sell it is pathetic, ignorant, cynical and childish. They're shooting themselves in the foot repeatedly and then thinking they can stem the haemorrhage by adding more lead!

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PostSubject: Re: New Adventure V85?   Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:23 pm

I wonder how many people are actually employed in the Moto Guzzi development/engineering department ?
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PostSubject: Re: New Adventure V85?   Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:49 pm

Way less than their bullshit marketing and sales teams obviously, Gregg. How'r the hips? Coming tonight?
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PostSubject: Re: New Adventure V85?   Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:04 pm

Hi Tony, hips are good, walking without sticks. Still 4 weeks of physio to go. No mate, not coming in until I can ride again. Gotta book in with Mr Roper for a service and blue slip, after I am allowed to drive, I will tow it down to him.
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PostSubject: Re: New Adventure V85?   Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:22 pm

Winner.
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PostSubject: Re: New Adventure V85?   Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:55 pm

Give my regards to all the lads tonight !
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PostSubject: Re: New Adventure V85?   Sun Jul 08, 2018 10:35 pm

Yes Beetle I have read the marketing blurb and agree it is marketing puff. I reference the continuity of my other comments todate and stand by them. I like the concept and will judge the bike when seen in the flesh and after journo reviews, notwithstanding their universal bias.
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PostSubject: Re: New Adventure V85?   Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:03 am

So the question is, what if it does hit the hp and torque figures? What if it weighs about what they said it would? That would put power to weight on par with the Stelvio, and maybe even a little better. It would be a fun package.

I suspect the hp will be very close to their claims. At the crank. Supposedly, my 1050cc Ballabio made 91 at the crank, so I think it's at least possible.

I'm a bit disappointed in the front fork (and I'd assume rear shock) travel. I was hoping for something similar to the Stelvio in that regard. I guess I'll have to wait in see. That ultimately would be the deal breaker for me. Not the engine.

If it doesn't come close to hitting all their claimed numbers, it'll be dead in the crib regardless of how good it is. The moto press will see to it.

If it isn't what I hope it will be, then I'll probably continue my search for a nice Super Alce.
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PostSubject: Re: New Adventure V85?   Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:35 pm

beetle wrote:


Did you actually read that marketing rubbish?

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An engine that is so modern that it even impacts on the frame design, becoming an integral part of the vehicle. Thanks to more rigid side covers and longer forks, the V85's precision and driveability on the road are top notch, even at high speed


It's a 2 valve pushrod engine that's a part of the frame? That's neither new, original or unique.

  When I use to have "marketing" in my job title,  my wife when asked what I did for a living, would say:
 He makes up stories about a product, and then convinces people that they are true.
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PostSubject: Re: New Adventure V85?   Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:15 am

When I use to have "marketing" in my job title,  my wife when asked what I did for a living, would say:
 [i]He makes up stories about a product, and then convinces people that they are true.


hahahah that made me laugh!
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PostSubject: Re: New Adventure V85?   Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:23 am

Italian design inspiration for sure...

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PostSubject: Re: New Adventure V85?   Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:19 pm

Good eye, Steak!
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PostSubject: Re: New Adventure V85?   Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:01 am

Need the helmet to go with it Wink

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PostSubject: Re: New Adventure V85?   Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:35 am

ah well, if you guys don't want it, i'll take it Razz
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PostSubject: Re: New Adventure V85?   Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:58 pm

Me too!!!
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PostSubject: Re: New Adventure V85?   Mon Aug 27, 2018 1:18 pm

The first testride (available in the Motociclismo magazine) and new images:
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The bike has a new name V85TT
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PostSubject: Re: New Adventure V85?   Mon Aug 27, 2018 1:40 pm

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PostSubject: Re: New Adventure V85?   Mon Aug 27, 2018 5:37 pm

Changed my mind. MX helmet and power ranger suit transforms it.

Can't buy one. Living in a land of pea gravel means off road bikes must be able to sustain high speed sliding without grinding heads off.

Don't crash? Yeah, nah.
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PostSubject: Re: New Adventure V85?   Mon Aug 27, 2018 6:02 pm

Well the action shots show bitumen. The off-road bit is "lawn" and stationery - well is it designed for back roads or not? Let's see some sliding action, feet up of course.

Incidentally, I followed a guy home (on a road bike) on my back road recently. While not the best of surfaces, it was bitumen. Every corner, he put his foot down - good way to get a broken leg. Obviously 'MotoX" trained. Wimps! Real sliders use the footpegs and balance shows the way. Ah, a bunch of softies - I like my legs unbroken, because it helps when walking...

Bill, a good stable-mate to your V7 - you are already a power-ranger, so...
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PostSubject: Re: New Adventure V85?   Thu Aug 30, 2018 12:50 am

From Adv Rider

From what I've been able to muddle through, the bike has a 5.5 gallon tank, was described by the reviewer as quick and light, stable at speed. At autostrada speeds (85mph?), ran about 5000 rpm. Said the wind protection did a decent job of eliminating buffeting. It was like by the staff of Motociclismo. They mention that the fueling seemed good through all the modes. It is definitely ride by wire and has cruise. They liked the instrument display. I also read that the transmission was very smooth and there is no "clunk" anywhere. It doesn't look like they got into specifics as it was strictly a ride review, but they did talk about the 80hp motor and it doesn't seem like the reviewer doubted the figure.

also

"the chassis and a small masterpiece.

also

"the upside-down and adjustable fork has an excellent sliding and does not sink too much into the most effective braking, reducing pitching. a little more supported (at least for our weight: the writer touches just 70kg) the single rear shock absorber also adjustable, fitted asymmetrical on the right side and without links."

Finally

between the curves emerges a good maneuverability, but above all a reassuring stability. The front end is solid and well flat, giving an immediate feeling and encouraging to force the rhythm. It is not a lightning in the changes of direction: it must be addressed using the large handlebar. and neutral, not at all nervous. Friendly. It instills trust.


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PostSubject: Re: New Adventure V85?   Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:55 pm

Looks pretty good,

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I cant see it replacing my old orange goose but I think it could be a fun bike for someone wanting something a bit lighter.

Of course it will all depend on how it handles and if the engine puts out as much grunt as the claim Question A test ride would be nice.
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PostSubject: Re: New Adventure V85?   Fri Oct 05, 2018 2:57 pm

I hope they sell a squillion of them.


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PostSubject: Re: New Adventure V85?   Fri Oct 05, 2018 3:06 pm

The grey is a welcome aesthetic improvement over the circus clown jocolor version.
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PostSubject: Re: New Adventure V85?   Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:56 am

LBC Tenni wrote:
The grey is a welcome aesthetic improvement over the circus clown jocolor version.

Hey some of us like Clowns:




And some of us resemble........

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