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PostSubject: Re: New Adventure V85?   Sun Jul 08, 2018 6:46 pm

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Still quite a negative band-waggon  happening on here. The most endearing thing about Guzzi's is their originality and uniquness imho. lets see what actually comes from the factory and opine then.


Did you actually read that marketing rubbish?

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An engine that is so modern that it even impacts on the frame design, becoming an integral part of the vehicle. Thanks to more rigid side covers and longer forks, the V85's precision and driveability on the road are top notch, even at high speed


It's a 2 valve pushrod engine that's a part of the frame? That's neither new, original or unique.


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PostSubject: Re: New Adventure V85?   Sun Jul 08, 2018 6:58 pm

And it's that sort of odious piffle that is going to do for it in the sales department.

They'll keep lying about it and talking it up and then it will be released to the retards who masquerade as 'Journalists' who will take it to an optimistic dyno and when they find it doesn't even come close to their fantasy figures they'll pan it and it will sell like rat sandwiches.

It's not that it will be a *Bad* bike. It's just the way they are trying to sell it is pathetic, ignorant, cynical and childish. They're shooting themselves in the foot repeatedly and then thinking they can stem the haemorrhage by adding more lead!

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PostSubject: Re: New Adventure V85?   Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:23 pm

I wonder how many people are actually employed in the Moto Guzzi development/engineering department ?
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PostSubject: Re: New Adventure V85?   Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:49 pm

Way less than their bullshit marketing and sales teams obviously, Gregg. How'r the hips? Coming tonight?
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PostSubject: Re: New Adventure V85?   Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:04 pm

Hi Tony, hips are good, walking without sticks. Still 4 weeks of physio to go. No mate, not coming in until I can ride again. Gotta book in with Mr Roper for a service and blue slip, after I am allowed to drive, I will tow it down to him.
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PostSubject: Re: New Adventure V85?   Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:22 pm

Winner.
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PostSubject: Re: New Adventure V85?   Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:55 pm

Give my regards to all the lads tonight !
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PostSubject: Re: New Adventure V85?   Sun Jul 08, 2018 10:35 pm

Yes Beetle I have read the marketing blurb and agree it is marketing puff. I reference the continuity of my other comments todate and stand by them. I like the concept and will judge the bike when seen in the flesh and after journo reviews, notwithstanding their universal bias.
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PostSubject: Re: New Adventure V85?   Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:03 am

So the question is, what if it does hit the hp and torque figures? What if it weighs about what they said it would? That would put power to weight on par with the Stelvio, and maybe even a little better. It would be a fun package.

I suspect the hp will be very close to their claims. At the crank. Supposedly, my 1050cc Ballabio made 91 at the crank, so I think it's at least possible.

I'm a bit disappointed in the front fork (and I'd assume rear shock) travel. I was hoping for something similar to the Stelvio in that regard. I guess I'll have to wait in see. That ultimately would be the deal breaker for me. Not the engine.

If it doesn't come close to hitting all their claimed numbers, it'll be dead in the crib regardless of how good it is. The moto press will see to it.

If it isn't what I hope it will be, then I'll probably continue my search for a nice Super Alce.
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PostSubject: Re: New Adventure V85?   Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:35 pm

beetle wrote:


Did you actually read that marketing rubbish?

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An engine that is so modern that it even impacts on the frame design, becoming an integral part of the vehicle. Thanks to more rigid side covers and longer forks, the V85's precision and driveability on the road are top notch, even at high speed


It's a 2 valve pushrod engine that's a part of the frame? That's neither new, original or unique.

  When I use to have "marketing" in my job title,  my wife when asked what I did for a living, would say:
 He makes up stories about a product, and then convinces people that they are true.
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PostSubject: Re: New Adventure V85?   Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:15 am

When I use to have "marketing" in my job title,  my wife when asked what I did for a living, would say:
 [i]He makes up stories about a product, and then convinces people that they are true.


hahahah that made me laugh!
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PostSubject: Re: New Adventure V85?   Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:23 am

Italian design inspiration for sure...

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PostSubject: Re: New Adventure V85?   Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:19 pm

Good eye, Steak!
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PostSubject: Re: New Adventure V85?   Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:01 am

Need the helmet to go with it Wink

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PostSubject: Re: New Adventure V85?   Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:35 am

ah well, if you guys don't want it, i'll take it Razz
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PostSubject: Re: New Adventure V85?   Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:58 pm

Me too!!!
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