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Pete Roper
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PostSubject: Attempting to obtain a rollerisation kit when your flat tappets fail.   Sat May 12, 2018 6:25 pm

I was going to send this as a PM to our Finish friend but it probably makes sense to just stick it up here.

As it is there are a number of vital pieces of information that must be submitted with the claim. If anything is missing it will be knocked back. Photo evidence is vital so make sure it is presented clearly.

First the VIN#. This is on the headstock and, in Oz, on the Vin plate which will be riveted to the frame. Where varies from model to model. Make sure the VIN # is clearly visible like so.

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Next the mileage/kilometerage has to be show.

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From here it has to be established which kit is required. This can be done by looking at the sealing system for the plug tube by inverting the rocker cover.

Late type.

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Early type.

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Pre 2010 models and all 1200 Sports require the insertion of shims under the inlet valve spring seats. To ascertain if this is necessary one has to look at the inner face of the cylinder head that faces into the valley of the motor. If there is a drill mark in the paint adjacent to the manufacturing date stamp the shims are not required.

Drill mark.

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No drill mark.

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Then of course there need to be pictures of the damaged parts.

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Finally there have to be pics of the service book dated and signed or receipts for all service work done either on distance or time whichever is the lesser.

It is very important not to miss anything because if you do the claim will be refused and once refused it is very difficult to get it re-opened for review.

Good luck.

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PostSubject: Re: Attempting to obtain a rollerisation kit when your flat tappets fail.   Sat May 12, 2018 11:36 pm

Damn! That last one looks like it was gnawed by wolverines! Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: Attempting to obtain a rollerisation kit when your flat tappets fail.   Sat May 12, 2018 11:51 pm

Not good is it? Not one we did. That was one pulled off the web.

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PostSubject: Re: Attempting to obtain a rollerisation kit when your flat tappets fail.   Mon May 14, 2018 12:33 pm

Thanks.. ill just show this thread when i get that bike to shop..
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PostSubject: Re: Attempting to obtain a rollerisation kit when your flat tappets fail.   Wed Aug 01, 2018 12:26 am

Hi Pete, Jon here from SA. Haven't introduced myself before but follow along threads appreciating the knowledge.
Am going to look at a 2010 8V GRiSO 27k kms, whose owner says that the dealer said their VIN fell outside of the recall so has not been rollerised. Load of bull I know so am working out if the cost of rollerising is worth it on top of the purchase price. One owner bike and the owner had done the last couple of services themselves. Would those self services affect a claim?
PS: how long does it take from submitting one to knowing if they will cover it?
Cheers Jon
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PostSubject: Re: Attempting to obtain a rollerisation kit when your flat tappets fail.   Wed Aug 01, 2018 3:09 am

Dunno what the score is with Peter Stephens, they usually try and wash their hands of anything but the final call is up to the factory. There never was a 'Recall' for the flat tappet fiasco. The shop doesn't know what they're talking about.

If you do it yourself cost would be around the $2K mark if things go to plan. A 2010 will probably need a 'C' kit but checking the heads for the mark in the paint is the only way to be certain.

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PostSubject: Re: Attempting to obtain a rollerisation kit when your flat tappets fail.   Wed Aug 01, 2018 3:54 am

ducducgoose wrote:
the dealer said their VIN fell outside of the recall so has not been rollerised.

Probably Peter Stevens themselves quoting it - they do no want to get their hands dirty. As Pete says no recall was ever mentioned, but most assuredly should have been.
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PostSubject: Re: Attempting to obtain a rollerisation kit when your flat tappets fail.   Wed Aug 01, 2018 4:34 am

Pete Roper wrote:
Dunno what the score is with Peter Stephens, they usually try and wash their hands of anything but the final call is up to the factory. There never was a 'Recall' for the flat tappet fiasco. The shop doesn't know what they're talking about.

If you do it yourself cost would be around the $2K mark if things go to plan. A 2010 will probably need a 'C' kit but checking the heads for the mark in the paint is the only way to be certain.

Pete

Thanks for that Pete, bike is interstate (sorry didn't make that clear) so dealer is a bit further north. Plus cheers for the guide on cost, will weigh it up against an already rollerised one. Will be doing a trip next week to have a look at a couple. We don't have many options down here
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PostSubject: Re: Attempting to obtain a rollerisation kit when your flat tappets fail.   Wed Aug 01, 2018 4:44 am

As Pete says no recall was ever mentioned, but most assuredly should have been.[/quote]

Yes, no excuse really. Fair enough it happened originally but no excuse that it went on for so long, let alone didn't get recalled officially.
I'd be happy enough to avoid the issue with a 2V but there isn't too many about for sale.My old Sporti is only 2V and she still goes okay.
Anyway I won't fill up this thread as it was clear and concise how Pete made it at the start for getting prepared for a claim. Thanks all.
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