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Goldwing Squinternotto
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Posts : 6 Join date : 2018-08-10
![Greetings from Venezuela Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Greetings from Venezuela Fri Aug 10, 2018 10:48 pm | |
| Hi guys, I´m a happy owner of a 2008 Stelvio and just got a 2009 GRiSO | |
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Guzzi Cat GRiSO Capo
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Posts : 361 Join date : 2014-09-03
![Greetings from Venezuela Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Greetings from Venezuela Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:30 am | |
| A great combination of bikes ![Thumbs Up](/users/2917/50/91/60/smiles/4178246257.gif) welcome, | |
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Pete Roper GRiSO Capo
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Posts : 10556 Join date : 2013-05-30 Age : 67
![Greetings from Venezuela Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Greetings from Venezuela Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:37 am | |
| You'll feel nd several people here who have multiple 8V's. I hope they've both been rollerised?
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sidrat GRiSO Capo
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Posts : 1657 Join date : 2014-09-22
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Bill Hagan GRiSO Capo
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Posts : 1727 Join date : 2014-07-04
![Greetings from Venezuela Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Greetings from Venezuela Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:38 am | |
| Welcome from the Moto Grappa at the top of Virginia! Bill | |
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Goldwing Squinternotto
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Posts : 6 Join date : 2018-08-10
![Greetings from Venezuela Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Greetings from Venezuela Sat Aug 11, 2018 2:00 am | |
| - Pete Roper wrote:
- You'll feel nd several people here who have multiple 8V's. I hope they've both been rollerised?
Pete Stelvio hasn´t and it has about 48K Km, got it with 17K. I´ve been using Shell Helix Ultra Racing syntetic 10w60 motor oil, no problems so far. I belive GRiSO neither. | |
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Pete Roper GRiSO Capo
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![Greetings from Venezuela Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Greetings from Venezuela Sat Aug 11, 2018 3:51 am | |
| Oh you have problems. They just haven't manifested themselves yet. Until all the DLC has gone therenis little noise or degradation in performance but the tappets will be destroying themselves.
All the flat tappet 8V's fail. The best thing to do is get to it before it manifests itself by noise. Make no mistake, at 48,000km there will be serious damage. It just hasn't been looked for yet. Pull a cambox, a fifteen minute job on the left hand side, and all will be revealed.
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Goldwing Squinternotto
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Posts : 6 Join date : 2018-08-10
![Greetings from Venezuela Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Greetings from Venezuela Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:06 am | |
| - Pete Roper wrote:
- Oh you have problems. They just haven't manifested themselves yet. Until all the DLC has gone therenis little noise or degradation in performance but the tappets will be destroying themselves.
All the flat tappet 8V's fail. The best thing to do is get to it before it manifests itself by noise. Make no mistake, at 48,000km there will be serious damage. It just hasn't been looked for yet. Pull a cambox, a fifteen minute job on the left hand side, and all will be revealed.
Pete I will. Thanks for the advise | |
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Goldwing Squinternotto
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Posts : 6 Join date : 2018-08-10
![Greetings from Venezuela Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Greetings from Venezuela Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:19 am | |
| By the way. I didn´t worried much about it since I read in another forum (Guzzitech Forum) that certain engines were involved in that problem. They even published the VIN that had the problem and an engine series or something like that. Mine wasn´t in that group. Anyways, beside the tappets, do I have to replace the Crankshaft as well?
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bioman GRiSO Capo
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Posts : 830 Join date : 2014-05-06
![Greetings from Venezuela Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Greetings from Venezuela Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:39 am | |
| Welcome to the Ghetto!! Show us some pictures!!
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GHTE Nibbio
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Posts : 573 Join date : 2015-02-10 Age : 70
![Greetings from Venezuela Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Greetings from Venezuela Sat Aug 11, 2018 8:05 am | |
| A hearty welcome from Oz. Great choice of Bikes. | |
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wardentm GRiSO Capo
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Posts : 904 Join date : 2015-05-16 Age : 71
![Greetings from Venezuela Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Greetings from Venezuela Sat Aug 11, 2018 8:27 am | |
| G'day Goldwing Welcome from us all down under in Tasmania Enjoy your stay here. Good luck with your rollorizing and of less importance but when you get some time check your swing arm and shock linkage greasing, see details on this site. Stay safe and well. | |
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Pete Roper GRiSO Capo
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Posts : 10556 Join date : 2013-05-30 Age : 67
![Greetings from Venezuela Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Greetings from Venezuela Sat Aug 11, 2018 8:29 am | |
| - Goldwing wrote:
- By the way. I didn´t worried much about it since I read in another forum (Guzzitech Forum) that certain engines were involved in that problem. They even published the VIN that had the problem and an engine series or something like that. Mine wasn´t in that group.
Anyways, beside the tappets, do I have to replace the Crankshaft as well?
Originally there was an official recall for early bikes which used chilled cast iron tappets. They were replaced with an alternative type of flat tappet made from forges steel with a 'Diamond Like Carbon', DLC coating. Unfortunately this didn't fix the problem but they kept selling bikes knowing they were going to fail until the middle of 2012 but steadfastly denied that there was a serious problem. If you do a bit of research on the problem you'll find I've done extensive research into the failure and what I believe are the causes. I've also done probably as many if not more rollerisations than any other workshop on the planet and have a policy of inspecting any flat tappet machine that comes into my workshop and I see a 100% failure rate. The details on how it can be corrected with factory 'Assistance' have also been explained but in your case unless you have clear documented history of the bike's service records it is highly unlikely you will get any help from the factory. Rollerising on your own dime is not cheap but failing to do so will destroy your motor. Catch it early enough though and it is safe and not difficult. As long as there is no bottom end damage from debris as the tappets fail all you need to do is install the required kit which is essentially camboxes. The crank will hopefully be fine. Pete | |
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V11 Don Abbondio
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Posts : 130 Join date : 2015-04-23
![Greetings from Venezuela Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Greetings from Venezuela Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:04 pm | |
| I'm a newby here myself, welcome aboard Goldwing. | |
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Street L'Innominato
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Posts : 3388 Join date : 2013-05-30 Age : 65
![Greetings from Venezuela Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Greetings from Venezuela Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:32 am | |
| Welcome to the Ghetto, Goldwing!
Pete (Street) --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]“When I'm riding my motorcycle, I'm glad to be alive. When I stop riding my motorcycle, I'm glad to be alive.” - Neil Peart[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] | |
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Oz1200Guzzi Don Abbondio
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Posts : 6084 Join date : 2014-03-14 Age : 69
![Greetings from Venezuela Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Greetings from Venezuela Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:01 pm | |
| Goldwing, don't believe everything you see/hear on GuzziTech. It's not a fair playing field!
Heed Pete Roper's advice, he will not guide you down the wrong path, not does he have a vested interest in aftermarket parts. | |
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Steak Godfather
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Posts : 3154 Join date : 2013-05-29 Age : 59
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| Two thumbs up on the GRiSO/Stelvio combo!!!
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Grisonut GRiSO
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Papa Lazarou GRiSO Capo
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Posts : 826 Join date : 2014-10-08 Age : 70
![Greetings from Venezuela Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Greetings from Venezuela Sat Aug 25, 2018 5:57 pm | |
| welcome and listen to Mr Roper. He knows. | |
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Pete Roper GRiSO Capo
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![Greetings from Venezuela Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Greetings from Venezuela Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:28 pm | |
| I fear he didn't like what he heard and has gone elsewhere to seek easy solutions proffered by incompetents for lots of money. Pity, but there ya go. | |
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Grisonut GRiSO
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| But, but...he uses that kick ass oil that no one ever heard of!! That's the ticket, yo! | |
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