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DaSwami
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PostSubject: Re: Patience - Get What You Pay For   Patience - Get What You Pay For - Page 2 Icon_minitime1Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:11 pm

ecs wrote:
Had a thought about why this MCO is so long in coming.

When did the GRiSO production line stop? This engine # is 015347 and the 10th VIN digit is H.   I wonder if these are unsold stock from Europe and their original MCO were in German or Polish or something??  They imported them but the original MCO were in the wrong lingo?   Might explain why the fineprint contained the 60 days to get an MCO.

Might be something to that...had a pic from the Sonoma dealer of a bike with the odometer showing and it is in italian (something about a code) and the temp thermometer is in Celsius
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PostSubject: Re: Patience - Get What You Pay For   Patience - Get What You Pay For - Page 2 Icon_minitime1Fri Jun 07, 2019 2:07 pm

DaSwami wrote:
ecs wrote:
Had a thought about why this MCO is so long in coming.

When did the GRiSO production line stop? This engine # is 015347 and the 10th VIN digit is H.   I wonder if these are unsold stock from Europe and their original MCO were in German or Polish or something??  They imported them but the original MCO were in the wrong lingo?   Might explain why the fineprint contained the 60 days to get an MCO.

Might be something to that...had a pic from the Sonoma dealer of a bike with the odometer showing and it is in italian (something about a code) and the temp thermometer is in Celsius
I guess it's how they leave factory, that is what they understand in Mandello.
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Merl3noir
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PostSubject: Re: Patience - Get What You Pay For   Patience - Get What You Pay For - Page 2 Icon_minitime1Fri Jun 07, 2019 2:37 pm

When I spoke with the sales man during the purchase of my bike (note salesman, not mechanic) he said that their mechanics have to install software on the bikes when it arrives. He specifically said they arrive with no software installed but, I suspect it arrives with something like Italian on it. Different countries have different blends of fuels that often require different fueling maps, so it is reasonable that this would be the case.
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PostSubject: Re: Patience - Get What You Pay For   Patience - Get What You Pay For - Page 2 Icon_minitime1Fri Jun 07, 2019 2:39 pm

Production ceased in early 16.
My 17 was built in 16...
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PostSubject: Re: Patience - Get What You Pay For   Patience - Get What You Pay For - Page 2 Icon_minitime1Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:03 pm

Merl3noir wrote:
When I spoke with the sales man during the purchase of my bike (note salesman, not mechanic) he said that their mechanics have to install software on the bikes when it arrives. He specifically said they arrive with no software installed but, I suspect it arrives with something like Italian on it. Different countries have different blends of fuels that often require different fueling maps, so it is reasonable that this would be the case.



Complete & utter rubbish.



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Pete Roper
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PostSubject: Re: Patience - Get What You Pay For   Patience - Get What You Pay For - Page 2 Icon_minitime1Fri Jun 07, 2019 5:24 pm

When they are delivered the dash is in Italian. Unsurprisingly as the bike is built in Italy! There are no 'Software uploads' but at least on the bikes I sold I'd go in and change the language to English as a courtesy.

Then there is the message on the bottom of the dash that will tell you 'Don't forget to insert your user code'. Many shops just leave the message there and give the purchaser no information on it. Yes, what it means is written in the owner's manual but for such a critical thing it always seemed sensible to me to explain to the customer what it was and then set up a user code with them. Some other shops would insert a code, often the last five numbers of the Vin, but wouldn't tell the purchaser meaning that if anything happened that triggered the security system they'd still be dead in the water because the owner wouldn't know!

If you don't know your user code and have two keys I'd strongly suggest going in to the dash and using the 'Code Recovery' function to change it to something you won't forget. That way if for any reason the dash asks you to 'Insert user code' which it will if the key is not recognised you can do so, start the bike and ride. If you don't know your code you'll be calling the tow truck!

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PostSubject: Re: Patience - Get What You Pay For   Patience - Get What You Pay For - Page 2 Icon_minitime1Fri Jun 07, 2019 5:28 pm

Oh, as Mark says, the ecu mapping is universal in all markets except perhaps Japan and I'm not even certain on that after the advent of the GRS8V-03 map.
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PostSubject: Re: Patience - Get What You Pay For   Patience - Get What You Pay For - Page 2 Icon_minitime1Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:07 am

Pete Roper wrote:

Then there is the message on the bottom of the dash that will tell you 'Don't forget to insert your user code'. Many shops just leave the message there and give the purchaser no information on it. Yes, what it means is written in the owner's manual but for such a critical thing it always seemed sensible to me to explain to the customer what it was and then set up a user code with them. Some other shops would insert a code, often the last five numbers of the Vin, but wouldn't tell the purchaser meaning that if anything happened that triggered the security system they'd still be dead in the water because the owner wouldn't know!

If you don't know your user code and have two keys I'd strongly suggest going in to the dash and using the 'Code Recovery' function to change it to something you won't forget. That way if for any reason the dash asks you to 'Insert user code' which it will if the key is not recognised you can do so, start the bike and ride. If you don't know your code you'll be calling the tow truck!

Pete

Thanks for the reminder Pete. I took care of my user code this morning. No more "don't forget" message at start up.
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