2014 GRiSO Service Stand

GRiSO Capo Posts : 10555 Join date : 2013-05-29 Age : 67

Yah, bobbins in wrong location. If you'd like to replace the scuffed heel plates let me know. I have a spare pair off the wreck that can be yours for a $10 donation to Medicienes sans frontiers.

Pete

Godfather Posts : 3154 Join date : 2013-05-28 Age : 59

Here's one of the Becker Tecnic stands on eBay:

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2012 MOTO GUZZI GRiSO 1200SE

2013 MOTO GUZZI STELVIO 1200NTX - Orange Blossom Special

GRiSO Capo Posts : 1496 Join date : 2015-01-04 Age : 63

Thanks for pointing the location issue - the bike came with these already fitted by an approved MG service centre; the same ones who said they couldn't change the engine map version so I probably shouldn't be surprised.... . Only question is that on the right hand side the rear brake lever uses the lower hole and there is only about 1/4 inch of thread left - do I need to remove the existing brake pivot bolt and if so (just being lazy by asking rather than just undoing it) do I shorten or replace the existing pivot bolt as I'm guessing needs special bolt to allow free rotation of lever ??

Sfregiato Posts : 477 Join date : 2014-10-22 Age : 64

No, leave the brake alone. The bobbin goes in the front lower hole,same as left side.

GRiSO Capo Posts : 113 Join date : 2015-12-01 Age : 49

Dummy me, I placed the original bid on that stand but forgot it ended Saturday morning and overslept....out bid by $1....kicking myself over and over on that gaf. Sleep

GRiSO Capo Posts : 1496 Join date : 2015-01-04 Age : 63

The reason I wasn't thinking to use the front lower bolt hole is because it doesn't have enough flat surface around it to support the Bobbin (roughly 50% is a higher level shoulder above; and the Bobbin doesn't have a deep enough counter 'flange' to sit flat against the inner of the recess. This means I either a) fit it anyway because the force of the stand will naturally only work on the upper shoulder contact point anyway (it can't slip down under stand pressure) but live with the engineering shame of fitting a flat bobbin on a shoulder surface knowing this somehow isn't right b) need to make an extra spacer to take the bobbin out enough so the pressure all falls on the inner surface of the mounting or c) go back to the wrong hole where the bobbin fits exactly in engineering terms and live with it. How did you get around the 'shoulder across the flat' problem ???
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GRiSO Capo Posts : 1496 Join date : 2015-01-04 Age : 63

For anyone struggling with same problem - here is one solution I found. On my 2009 GRiSO 8V each side panel is significantly different in what type and where they will take bobbins - that's why the MG service people stuck them at the only place the standard bobbins fit but is both high and rear of footrests.

To use the lower mounting points you need an additional 5 mm spacer on the RHS else the bobbin sits wrong. Using my newly inherited machine shop (my Dad died in late April) in Cardiff - yet to be moved to manchester - I turned up a 5mm thick alu spacer from a big ferrule with 8 mm hole I bought on line & all fits perfect. Here are the shots including showing the bobbins don't line up at all but stand seems OK to take the deviation. Now Rear tyre is off the floor properly and more room to work. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

Nibbio Posts : 519 Join date : 2017-11-09

I guess my $10 lumber one is too cheap for you guys lol.
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The large oblong hole allows the swingarm to be removed.

GRiSO Capo Posts : 10116 Join date : 2013-09-30

Not for me!

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Montanarolo Posts : 24 Join date : 2021-02-13

opc wrote:

Pete Roper wrote:: While I haven't actually tried it the bobbins seem to be virtually identical in appearance to the under-seat ones that are for bungee hooks for luggage. The only difference I believe is that the under seat ones are countersunk for the screw heads. Stick a suitably sized washer over the end of an under seat bobbin and get a longer bolt and then shriek and moan until they send you a new one.

Pete

I noticed these, too, Pete. They are a little shorter than the lift bobbins and a different diameter. I'd be inclined to use them as a pair rather than mix and match.

In the mean time, I ordered a set of these: 8mm Swingarm D Axis Spools. I'll re-post when I get them and the bolt to share how they worked out.

GRiSO Capo Posts : 1462 Join date : 2016-01-25 Age : 69

I am a convert to the lumber stand as well, although i found the fractions of an inch confusing - have not used those for 45 years lol

Don't look too closely i am not a joiner Mad

I put a 'foot' on the longer right hand stand to make it more nudge-proof
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A standard british house brick is the right size to support the shorter left hand leg
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GRiSO Capo Posts : 10116 Join date : 2013-09-30

I converted the measurements to the correct proper type, if anyone needs...

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Squinternotto Posts : 2 Join date : 2023-07-28

Anyone have a line on one of the OEM service stands (973243500010) almost ordered one off Harper's but they had actually sold out. Bought my GRiSO with the bobbins for the proper service stand already installed. Been calling a few places and looking online has yielded nothing. I'm a little hesitant of the Becker Technik stand since I've read the mate up isn't great. Any help is much appreciated.

GRiSO Capo Posts : 10555 Join date : 2013-05-29 Age : 67

The factory stand is a pretty simple piece of kit and easily fabricated. I have one and can measure the lifter length and arm angle if you like? I doubt the factory still sells them for a model that's been out of production for seven years.

Squinternotto Posts : 2 Join date : 2023-07-28

That would be great if you could. I'd still need to find a fabricator or make something myself but I think it's worth the investment.

GRiSO Capo Posts : 10555 Join date : 2013-05-29 Age : 67

Picked my stand up today. I'll try and organise some pics and measurements tomorrow.

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