GRiSO ghetto
Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.


12425 - Established June, 2013 - all GRiSO, all the time...
 
HomeRegisterLog in
 

 Wiring aberration- grips/headlight

Go down 
+2
paulbrice
SMTCapeCod
6 posters
AuthorMessage
SMTCapeCod
Biondino
Biondino
SMTCapeCod

Posts : 216
Join date : 2020-12-17

Wiring aberration- grips/headlight Empty
PostSubject: Wiring aberration- grips/headlight   Wiring aberration- grips/headlight Icon_minitime1Sat Mar 20, 2021 6:21 pm

OK, time to burn a little of the capital that I haven't earned yet...

First, I very much appreciate the advice from the people that posted to my 'introduction' thread, about how to properly wire the heated grips that I found hacked into the headlight harness.  Battery, relay, fuse, thanks.  And thanks also for the advice about getting into the dash to access the factory turn signal connectors for that other part of the project.

Edit... Thumbs Up

The grips have three harnesses- one for each side and one for the controller.
The blue and white wires from the two grips appear to be paired up.
The two red leads from the two grips are paired up and were connected to the BLK wire via a tap.
The red lead from the controller harness went to the fuse-tap thing and then to the BLU wire.

It's making me a little crazy.


Last edited by SMTCapeCod on Sun Apr 18, 2021 6:23 am; edited 2 times in total
Back to top Go down
SMTCapeCod
Biondino
Biondino
SMTCapeCod

Posts : 216
Join date : 2020-12-17

Wiring aberration- grips/headlight Empty
PostSubject: Re: Wiring aberration- grips/headlight   Wiring aberration- grips/headlight Icon_minitime1Sat Mar 20, 2021 6:57 pm

I should've mentioned that it's a three part switch- off/low/high for the grips.
Alrighty, I went to the electrical diagram that I bought from AF1, (B) Blue is ground.  
Makes sense as its shared across headlight and parking light bulbs.  
So I had a fused tap on the ground feeding the main power to the controller??  
And then the black in this case is hot?


Edit...So more searching, found that they are likely Symtec/"Heat Demon" warmers.  Install video confirms that the grip harness blue and white wires are supposed to be combined, and that the red wires from the grips are ground.   Would the switch work with polarity reversed?
I put some nice ones on my V7 but darned if I want to face stripping all this stuff off and replacing it.

EDIT II: Fine, I relent! What's a couple more weeks....New Koso Apollo set en route, and harness etc from Beaver. Installed the Apollos with the integrated button on my V7, they're great! Not looking forward to peeling off the element that's already on there.
And I'd still like to know, tho, how the set that's on there seemed to be working.
Back to top Go down
paulbrice
GRiSO Capo
GRiSO Capo
paulbrice

Posts : 1168
Join date : 2015-01-04
Age : 60

Wiring aberration- grips/headlight Empty
PostSubject: Re: Wiring aberration- grips/headlight   Wiring aberration- grips/headlight Icon_minitime1Sun Mar 21, 2021 11:14 am

So are you all sorted ?. From look it is easy to see the grips are just hacked off the headlamp blue and headlamp black & as you say per wiring diagram blue is common ground & Black is main beam feed. AFAIK (I've fitted Heat Demon pads under my grips) there isn't any polarity and the three way toggle is just Full on-off - half heat. The fuse protection should be upstream of the load in case heating element joins onto handlebad or other earth (beyond the wired one).

I fitted mine through a fuzeblok (just a fancy version of Beaver harness). Only issue I had was need to 'shape out' some of the throttle grip inner edge to let wire out
Back to top Go down
Kiwi_Roy
Sfregiato
Sfregiato
Kiwi_Roy

Posts : 489
Join date : 2017-11-09

Wiring aberration- grips/headlight Empty
PostSubject: Re: Wiring aberration- grips/headlight   Wiring aberration- grips/headlight Icon_minitime1Mon Mar 22, 2021 11:49 pm

Its better they hacked into the headlight than into the main loom, you can easily tidy that up.
I think the hot wire should be from the park light, its the only place you have 12 Volts at all times, the negative from the blue wire.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
It's a spot I often use to pick up 12 Volts e.g. for a USB adapter, driving lights.

lcjohnny likes this post

Back to top Go down
Steak
L'Innominato
L'Innominato
Steak

Posts : 2945
Join date : 2013-05-28
Age : 56

Wiring aberration- grips/headlight Empty
PostSubject: Re: Wiring aberration- grips/headlight   Wiring aberration- grips/headlight Icon_minitime1Tue Mar 23, 2021 3:38 pm

If anyone wants to add electric bits onto a GRiSO, I always suggest wiring in one of these great kits from Eastern Beaver.

I really like the 3-Circuit solution, it's simple to install, and gives you three bonafide power sources for say heated grips, heated gear, and auxiliary lights as an example. You'll also find this V-Strom pigtail (the one for $16.95) very useful to tap into the GRiSO's taillight lead to trigger the relay.

Or even better yet, I see that he now has a complete kit specifically for the GRiSO! A 4-Circuit Solution which provides yet another power source if you need it. That's fantastic!

All of this stuff tucks in nicely under the seat, within the cowling around the air filter box.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

--- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- ---
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

2012 MOTO GUZZI GRiSO 1200SE

2013 MOTO GUZZI STELVIO 1200NTX - Orange Blossom Special
Back to top Go down
https://www.grisoghetto.com
SMTCapeCod
Biondino
Biondino
SMTCapeCod

Posts : 216
Join date : 2020-12-17

Wiring aberration- grips/headlight Empty
PostSubject: Re: Wiring aberration- grips/headlight   Wiring aberration- grips/headlight Icon_minitime1Tue Mar 23, 2021 7:19 pm

I believe that harness already has the terminals to pick up the taillight signal so the separate pigtail may not be warranted if getting the dedicated kit?
At this time, after ordering a customer gets a follow up message reiterating the notice on the website about delays in supply chain/production, and international shipping. I may be long done with the install by the time I see it.
Back to top Go down
Omnis
GRiSO Capo
GRiSO Capo
Omnis

Posts : 254
Join date : 2014-10-06

Wiring aberration- grips/headlight Empty
PostSubject: Re: Wiring aberration- grips/headlight   Wiring aberration- grips/headlight Icon_minitime1Wed Mar 24, 2021 11:00 am

Steak wrote:
If anyone wants to add electric bits onto a GRiSO, I always suggest wiring in one of these great kits from Eastern Beaver.

I really like the 3-Circuit solution, it's simple to install, and gives you three bonafide power sources for say heated grips, heated gear, and auxiliary lights as an example.  You'll also find this V-Strom pigtail (the one for $16.95) very useful to tap into the GRiSO's taillight lead to trigger the relay.

Or even better yet, I see that he now has a complete kit specifically for the GRiSO! A 4-Circuit Solution which provides yet another power source if you need it.  That's fantastic!

All of this stuff tucks in nicely under the seat, within the cowling around the air filter box.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

That's the one I have and it works great, the new GRiSO specific one makes it easy to plug into the tail 12V wire.
Back to top Go down
Steak
L'Innominato
L'Innominato
Steak

Posts : 2945
Join date : 2013-05-28
Age : 56

Wiring aberration- grips/headlight Empty
PostSubject: Re: Wiring aberration- grips/headlight   Wiring aberration- grips/headlight Icon_minitime1Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:58 pm

SMTCapeCod wrote:
I believe that harness already has the terminals to pick up the taillight signal so the separate pigtail may not be warranted if getting the dedicated kit?  
At this time, after ordering a customer gets a follow up message reiterating the notice on the website about delays in supply chain/production, and international shipping.  I may be long done with the install by the time I see it.

I believe that's exactly what I said. The GRiSO unit is plug and play (4 circuits). If you want just two or three circuits, then you should buy the V-Strom pigtail to make the install easier.

I don't know what his current lead time is, but delivery has never taken more than a week to 10 days for the two units I've ordered previously.

--- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- ---
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

2012 MOTO GUZZI GRiSO 1200SE

2013 MOTO GUZZI STELVIO 1200NTX - Orange Blossom Special
Back to top Go down
https://www.grisoghetto.com
paulbrice
GRiSO Capo
GRiSO Capo
paulbrice

Posts : 1168
Join date : 2015-01-04
Age : 60

Wiring aberration- grips/headlight Empty
PostSubject: Re: Wiring aberration- grips/headlight   Wiring aberration- grips/headlight Icon_minitime1Thu Mar 25, 2021 4:26 am

Not sure about FZ-1 supply chain but here's the (USA) link (up to 6 circuits capacity)....FZ-1
Back to top Go down
SMTCapeCod
Biondino
Biondino
SMTCapeCod

Posts : 216
Join date : 2020-12-17

Wiring aberration- grips/headlight Empty
PostSubject: Re: Wiring aberration- grips/headlight   Wiring aberration- grips/headlight Icon_minitime1Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:13 am

Ordered March 23, arrived Apr 7.  No Complaints.  Solidly constructed exactly as pictured.

Sad day getting to install. I'll forgo the picture in deference to the sensitive stomachs. But more chicanery in the rear harness, with both a 'tail tidy' turns and PCV/autotune all spliced into rear harness via taps etc. Mad    And one of the auto-tune wires for the O2 sensor dislodged from the unit.  
I have an email in to the seller to see if he'll 'spill' whoever the chucklehead was, I don't think it was him given his deferral of all questions touching on mechanicals.  Otherwise a nicely modded, fairly pristine bike.  But sheez...Luckily i bought extra connectors at the same time and can unf***k some of it, squandering riding time here...
Back to top Go down
lcjohnny
GRiSO Capo
GRiSO Capo
lcjohnny

Posts : 533
Join date : 2016-01-25
Age : 66

Wiring aberration- grips/headlight Empty
PostSubject: Re: Wiring aberration- grips/headlight   Wiring aberration- grips/headlight Icon_minitime1Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:06 pm

I like that word "unf***k"
thats what you do on a second hand bike
i spent months doing it on mine.

The really good bits are when i find myself unf**king bits that a  f**ker like me f**ked up f**king years ago lol
Back to top Go down
SMTCapeCod
Biondino
Biondino
SMTCapeCod

Posts : 216
Join date : 2020-12-17

Wiring aberration- grips/headlight Empty
PostSubject: Re: Wiring aberration- grips/headlight   Wiring aberration- grips/headlight Icon_minitime1Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:39 pm

I was lucky enough to score an amazing (but basket case) '67 GTO as my first car, years before I got my license (which was good because it wasn't streetable on purchase). I kept it for ten+ years, and the young me was not kind to the later me. Still, I had youthful naivete and exuberance on my side, this stuff was perpetrated by adults, and ones claiming mad skills at that!
Back to top Go down
 
Wiring aberration- grips/headlight
Back to top 
Page 1 of 1

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
GRiSO ghetto :: The Ghetto :: GRiSOLOGY-
Jump to: