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PostSubject: Front Wheel Removal   Front Wheel Removal Icon_minitime1Sat Nov 20, 2021 9:22 am

Manual says knock axle thru with soft faced mallet then insert screwdriver in holes bom
Its a f*cking slot! Ok so its only a slot if you have the spoked wheels, if you have regular cast wheels the hole is present.
Nut felt tighter than the 58ftIbs it's supposed to be.

Head race action is smooth as butter am not re greasing what aint f*cked.

Though that said the rear shock linkage can seem smooth, yet upon dissassembly you find the grease is on its last legs.
If it's a servicable item and you have no proof it's been serviced either service it or pay some f*cker to do it for you.
Better to be safe than sorry  Smile

Rotated right fork leg to hide cosmetic scratch.

Regreased axle as needed a bit.
Forgot me torque settings, guessed pinch bolts at 18 top lower 22, was 13 and 16ftIbs the 18 and 22 was NM's.
Bottom axle pinch bolts are 10NM, no wonder they was green thread locked like they was going out of fashion, stop them falling out.
Wanged them up by hand. used a littlle thread lock too.
Had to guess what went where, two different lengths plus long shoulders and short shoulders for the same application.
All four holes are identical depth am like wtf.

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Axle was fun hold left side with screwdriver and tighten nut to about 45 -50ftIbs, tighten left side pinch bolts and torque axle using both hands to 58/59ftIbs.
Would have been easier with a deeper nut and actual holes in axle.

Caliper bolts are 36ftIbs seems a tad extreme compared to the weedy settings of the fork clamps and pinch bolts.
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PostSubject: Re: Front Wheel Removal   Front Wheel Removal Icon_minitime1Tue Jan 11, 2022 10:59 am

Just tighten pinch bolts on the free end and then torque the nut captive side.
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PostSubject: Re: Front Wheel Removal   Front Wheel Removal Icon_minitime1Tue Jan 11, 2022 2:20 pm

CrazyBiker wrote:
Just tighten pinch bolts on the free end and then torque the nut captive side.

Um I think thats what it says, "tighten left side pinch bolts and torque axle using both hands to 58/59ftIbs"
You following me Laughing
That was ages ago in November I had only aquired the bike the previous month.
Since stripped the back end, un-seized swing arm suspension pivot block bolt and greased swing arm bearings and suspension pivot block, swapped out a knackered front shaft UJ.
Changed the shock for a Stelvio unit and changed the spring to suit my weight.
Also swapped out the grandad spokey wheels for the brembo 3 spoke cast ones.
About to strip the front end, regrease headrace bearings, swap out front fork springs and re-valve fork, any clever tips for me?
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PostSubject: Re: Front Wheel Removal   Front Wheel Removal Icon_minitime1Tue Jan 11, 2022 4:56 pm

Why cast wheels 🤦? The spoke wheels are one of the reasons to buy the GRiSO or a Guzzi
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PostSubject: Re: Front Wheel Removal   Front Wheel Removal Icon_minitime1Tue Jan 11, 2022 7:12 pm

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Why cast wheels 🤦? The spoke wheels are one of the reasons to buy the GRiSO or a Guzzi

In no particluar order.

A. they were rusty corroded steel.
B. they could have been stainless spokes then maybe just maybe I would have kept them.
C. they are heavier than the alloy wheels.
D. they leak air from the spokes where they fit on the rim, once it starts it means daily pressure checks/removal of carcass and new seals or some form of sealant or tubes.
E. they are a f*cker to keep clean and clean, takes ages to polish them suckers.
F. they are for poeple who hark back to classic bikes and like/seek that classic look.
G. I also dont like the exposed grotty grey left side with exposed wheel nuts.
Am so glad I was not driven nor had the cash to put into buying a later SE version, your almost stuck with having them.
Paying all that extra wedge for spoke wheels and a matt paintjob with most of the black design tacky looking stickers that bubble and lift/crack split.
Am also not a fan of the Tenni Green SE brown seat yuk no thanks.

That said if thats all that was available when was searching one out (for me it was GRiSO 1200 rollerised first, colour it came in second) then I would have settled for it and learned to like it, even the Black Devil or Rosso Trophy.
Bit like owning a white bike, not my first choice but it does grow on you  Cool

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PostSubject: Re: Front Wheel Removal   Front Wheel Removal Icon_minitime1Tue Jan 11, 2022 11:56 pm

Those spokes once cleaned, sealed and coated stay and hold well. You are the only one that doesn't like Tenni Green GRiSO .. That is the one to get! Very Happy You are weird. But i like that white.  

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PostSubject: Re: Front Wheel Removal   Front Wheel Removal Icon_minitime1Wed Jan 12, 2022 12:22 am


I'm not a fan of the Tenni green. I had the choice of a black, white, or Tenni GRiSO when I bought mine. I bought the black one.

I also dislike spokes. I'd rather be strung up by fishhooks through my testicles.


Having said that, Mr Bob's Tenni always gives me wood when I see it. Probably because it's immaculate.




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PostSubject: Re: Front Wheel Removal   Front Wheel Removal Icon_minitime1Wed Jan 12, 2022 1:59 am

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You are the only one that doesn't like Tenni Green GRiSO .. That is the one to get! Very Happy You are weird. But i like that white.  
Tenni is the best GRiSO ever made!

Thanks was born weird, premature, flat feet and spina biffida all corrected through early surgery thank f*ck.
I had my spoke wheels on sale here for a couple of months at a super bargain price of £200, Even offered a Termignoni with them sort of.
There were "No Takers", though Steak did offer interest no one else did.
Eventually sold them on facebook marketplace for £300 in under 5 minutes, lots of interest non GRiSO related.
Buyer wanted them for a project, he reckoned he already had a set. He also offered to collect them as shipping was seperate (buyer pays shipping).
That was 3 weeks ago, I still have the wheels Laughing
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Just sold them hideous pullback risers for £62 inc shipping to Finland as have Onurs risers fitted now.

I often ask women for their opinions on Motorcycles, the vast majority like black and few to non like a brown seat or a green bike that I know of, except there is one in Oz owns a Tenni Green.
I guess that would make the men that do like them... Well strange Laughing

No bike gives me wood no women either unless viagra induced  Shocked  Embarassed
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PostSubject: Re: Front Wheel Removal   Front Wheel Removal Icon_minitime1Wed Jan 12, 2022 3:51 am

Hello, I also confess that I do not see the Tenni Green as the first choice.

A GRiSO in black is for me the most beautiful and classic. Then I also like the white, looks very elegant.

After that would come for me the yellow.

The Tenni I find interesting to look at, but would not have it.

If I got a 2nd set of paint or body kit, I would make me a white dress.

But: everyone as he likes, all a matter of taste of the owner.

But the most important thing: all Moto Guzzi GRiSO are a feast for the eyes and it always remains timeless and polarizing.

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PostSubject: Re: Front Wheel Removal   Front Wheel Removal Icon_minitime1Wed Jan 12, 2022 4:22 am

And yet another person who cares little for the Tenni shade of green.. I like all the others, and am really partial to yellow or black. And that darker C/F green that was posted a few weeks ago was VERY nice.

As for the spoke wheels, that is one of the styling features that drew me to the GRiSO in the first place. Are they difficult to clean? Yes, if you are one who thinks every little speck of dirt must be removed. A squirt of soap and a paint brush has them good enough in just seconds. If you really want "easy to clean", buy an old Honda PC800.
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PostSubject: Re: Front Wheel Removal   Front Wheel Removal Icon_minitime1Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:06 am

I have never seen a GRiSO that I didn't like, ever! But when set up like this one, green is my colour: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

By the way, seems to be impossible to get a belly pan these days. Any suggestions? Maybe I have to make one...
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PostSubject: Re: Front Wheel Removal   Front Wheel Removal Icon_minitime1Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:51 am

Hello, apparently she must have hurt herself on the exhaust manifolds that she had to be bandaged ;-)))

the beautiful chromed exhaust manifolds are a main part of the GRiSO

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PostSubject: Re: Front Wheel Removal   Front Wheel Removal Icon_minitime1Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:41 am

Holger wrote:
Hello, apparently she must have hurt herself on the exhaust manifolds that she had to be bandaged ;-)))

the beautiful chromed exhaust manifolds are a main part of the GRiSO

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Yes I know there are differences in taste regarding bandages, I'm also not a big fan of it. BUT the rest of the set up I find lovely! Even the fat muffler looks great in black on this bike!  [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
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PostSubject: Re: Front Wheel Removal   Front Wheel Removal Icon_minitime1Wed Jan 12, 2022 8:28 am

I was also drawn to the GRiSO by the spoked rims and fat stainless headers. Also, the bars, seat, tank, frame and fenders made the whole package just work perfectly. Still, to this day, I think it is the best looking stock motorcycle I've ever seen. Only bike I ever bought based solely on its looks.

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PostSubject: Re: Front Wheel Removal   Front Wheel Removal Icon_minitime1Wed Jan 12, 2022 9:17 am

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I was also drawn to the GRiSO by the spoked rims and fat stainless headers. Also, the bars, seat, tank, frame and fenders made the whole package just work perfectly. Still, to this day, I think it is the best looking stock motorcycle I've ever seen. Only bike I ever bought based solely on its looks.

I already have too many motos but I promised my buddies, if they find a Tenni GRiSO, I will buy risking my garage space, wife's wrath, marriage, etc .. and lo behold they found one completely modded and setup and top that rollerized too. I was like Oh shit, I am done.

I agree, GRiSO is the most beautiful stock bike I have laid my eyes on esp in Tenni green with brown seat

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PostSubject: Re: Front Wheel Removal   Front Wheel Removal Icon_minitime1Thu Jan 13, 2022 5:39 pm

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By the way, seems to be impossible to get a belly pan these days. Any suggestions? Maybe I have to make one...

Ghezzi Brian makes belly pans so I heard, not that cheap though.
Certainly not as superior as my Stucci pan  Laughing
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As for the spoke wheels, that is one of the styling features that drew me to the GRiSO in the first place.  Are they difficult to clean?  Yes, if you are one who thinks every little speck of dirt must be removed.  A squirt of soap and a paint brush has them good enough in just seconds.  If you really want "easy to clean", buy an old Honda PC800.

At least 12 of my front spokes are rust 6 on the rear, the cost of replacing those is the same as a decent used cast front wheel. Plus the aggro of removing and refitting the tires.
Ensuring the wheel is true.
I had hoped the GRiSO had elegant stainless spokes not cheap shitty chromed crappy ones.
Sure they are fine if maintained, protected and looked after or you live is some country that doesnt rain all the time or have winters where the council throws grit salt every where.
Unfortunatly my bike spent the last 5 years neglected, used occassionaly on the odd sunday spring summer autumn and winter day but otherwise neglected.
Am not a fan of spoke wheels sure they were ok on my T140D Bonneville in 1987.
My bike came with them so as soon as the opportunity presented itself, I bought some tasty original for my bike cast wheels and sold the spokes for the same price bought the cast wheels for.


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Hello, apparently she must have hurt herself on the exhaust manifolds that she had to be bandaged ;-)))

the beautiful chromed exhaust manifolds are a main part of the GRiSO

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They are Stainless Steel not chromed hence they can degrade then you can polish them up and slowly watch them go a glorious golden almost brass petina colour.
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PostSubject: Re: Front Wheel Removal   Front Wheel Removal Icon_minitime1Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:48 am

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Ghezzi Brian makes belly pans so I heard, not that cheap though.
Certainly not as superior as my Stucci pan  Laughing

Yes, but I don't like the ones from Ghezzi, they're not as snug as Stuccis. Look more like missiles to be fired of at a Harley or something...

Regardings spokes, yes they should have been stainless, really sad they're not. Wonder how easy it would be to paint them black though...
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PostSubject: Re: Front Wheel Removal   Front Wheel Removal Icon_minitime1Fri Jan 14, 2022 4:08 am

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Buellbloke wrote:


Ghezzi Brian makes belly pans so I heard, not that cheap though.
Certainly not as superior as my Stucci pan  Laughing

Yes, but I don't like the ones from Ghezzi, they're not as snug as Stuccis. Look more like missiles to be fired of at a Harley or something... Laughing

Regardings spokes, yes they should have been stainless, really sad they're not. Wonder how easy it would be to paint them black though...

The Stucci pans are nice even the rear on the right side is curved to follow the lines of the brake lever.
Took me some time to get used to it as fell for that huge sump engine and shaft, hiding the sump was not what I intended.
He doesnt seem to be that easy to communicate with Stucci, I tried to engage him on my facebook wall after he commented on the spoiler.

The spokes on that tenni video you posted dont look too clever though the vid doesnt stop long enough for a proper closeup.
Taste is very subjective, I started out thinking would like a more black version but then on aquiring the white bike found myself wanting to remove all the excess carbon~
black bar ends, black pazzo levers and re introducing some original parts. The GRiSO is a mass of different blacks already, the chrome/alloy touches break up different areas and make them stand out.
Was glad a previous keeper changed the chrome headlight nacell and chrome dash nacell for black ones as felt those items were just a bit too much over the top chrome wise.
I think the huge stainless exhaust headers re-polished with the Mistral shorty is like having a brand new system, seems a shame to blacken them out or wrap them up.
It does look mean in the black with the wraps but the overal bike doesnt carry as much eye catching detail as the more original concept.
Owners who have had one for some time prob find themselves wanting to change the bike up though.

With the spokes considered painting them black also aquiring some spoke wraps, the latter being much harder than anticipated.
The original wheels on my white GRiSO were/are the ones I now have fitted, they make the bike look less hectic/cluttered.
You can see the rear brake rotor from the left side where as before it was mostly hidden and I do like the centre hub covered unlike the spoke version.
Lots on this forum have converted spoke to original, I offered mine at a rediculously low price over two months and had no takers.
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