- Clancy wrote:
- Buellbloke wrote:
Beetles maps arent all they are cracked up to be
Sorry mate, but I completely disagree with you.
My GRiSO runs beautifully with a Beetle map (Mistral high pipe) and his map for my V7-II HUGELY improved the way the engine ran.
- Buellbloke wrote:
- Balancing at 3500 - 4000 rpm with bouncing slides in your manometer is not an easy process
I'm no mechanic, but after years in automation & controls I'm fairly adept at mechanical tasks.
Balancing the throttle bodies on the GRiSO was the first time I'd ever done this task, and with a Carbtune Pro I found it to be a piece of piss.
The slides weren't bouncing around overly much - certainly not too much to make a stable adjustment.
Maybe there's something else going on with your bike.
I did say with a map specifically made for your silencer you would probably get better results.
As for the Carbtune Pro Manometer, both myself and a mate have owned and maintained our own bikes for over 30 years.
We did not find balancing my GRiSO an easy process.
We both have some experience with carb balancing manomters of old on inline 4 carb bikes.
I have used software on maps on buells as well as the lovely to use V&H Hines Fuel pack so not total numties.
Maybe there is something else going on with my lovely 13k always garaged even when soaking wet GRiSO, that was left standing for years.
My experience of the bike so far is unless have at least a modicum of common sense, half decent mechanical and good practical skills then the bikes can potentially cost you thousands.
- Pete Roper wrote:
- Virtually everybody finds Mark's maps transformative. Some of the most highly commended Guzzi workshops in the world use them, good grief, Mistral use them! Do you not think that might indicate something?
No matter. You can't please all the people all of the time although your suggestion that playing with the CO trim with the stock map made no difference does indicate that you don't understand what you are doing and therefore one has to question whether you have performed all the necessary tuning steps correctly.
It matters not. Although in the email accompanying the map delivery you were asked, if you had problems, to contact the author. Did you do that? And what is the provenance of the Termi map? Did you buy that as well?
Quite true what do the Co trims do? From beetles partial explanation they are some form of enrichener/weakener circuit, his exact words were you can go in either direction though going low below a certain level -10 would indicate a mechanical or some other problem like the incorrect map for your bike. He also mentioned it could control the tickover.
I completely admit am not astute whereby balancing and manipulating Guzzidiag is concerned, though am also capable as much as the next man that you have tried to convince is a piss easy process.
If I am struggling then those with less abilities have no chance.
As for software and controlling its application have built personal computers and upgraded laptops since the Pentium 100. 486's/586's and DOS have never been my thing.
You know damn well am capable from all the posts have created concerning the various trials and tribulations have dealt with concerning my GRiSO.
I balanced the bike, it took several attempts to get it really good and its significantly smoother than it was.
I was very surprised the difference each map inflicted on the bike considering these are just to sort out a silencers effect on fueling.
1100's dont have stepper motors so I even plugged and unplugged that part to test the differences.
Virtually but not everybody. Do you not think that those with woes would not voice some concerns to me.
As for contacting the Author am blocked on this website from messaging him, because to all apparent beetle can dish out the damage but the man is so up his own arse that he cannot take it.
Hence he has uncle Pete Roper to defend him, like he is now, where is the man?
Have even written on this website apologies for offending his sensibilities which have have no effect, and done my utmost to engauge him, thats ok because you reap what you sow.
I have been a very active promoter of beetles maps and still am, with a matched silencer I should imagine on a good GRiSO they are a dream.
Whats a good GRiSO? because applying some of those maps can turn an enjoyable machine into a nighmare, a dog of a motor you just want to get shot of
I have had no support and bought a map not originally designed for a cat 5 silencer, these are just my opinions and actual experience.
- rick pope wrote:
- I had the Beetle map installed when I took my GRiSO to Cadre for a service. I was/am thrliled with the transformation. Much better idle, stronger on bottom end, slight improvement in mileage.
And before you ask why I took it to the dealer for service, let me explain that I am totally ignorant to the ways of hooking up a diagnostic tool with a computer. I will learn, eventually. I don't shy away from old school things, but this is my first fuel injected bike. I'll tear into the 6 carbs of a CBX and never flinch. But until I have some instruction on these, I'll just pay someone.
What a cop out!
If you can use a mobile phone, a laptop or a desktop PC then there should be nothing stopping you except the size of your gonads
Beetle provides links to the relevant software and hardware.
Connecting the hardware to a modern, last 7 -10 years laptop is simple plug and play, aint non of that searching for com port shit.
The software itself prompts you as well as beetle provides a readme to assist, couldnt be more simpler.
Leave it any longer and your already aged shrinking brain will be beyond much of anything.
Paying a stealer to do the work means what you have to say has no bearing whatsoever.
You didnt do this so your opinions are worthess
Subject: Beetle Map for Mistral Shorty 
Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:50 pm
