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PostSubject: Anyone use a final drive guard?   Anyone use a final drive guard? Icon_minitime1Thu Oct 23, 2014 9:59 pm

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Anyone have this on the GRiSO? If so, how do you like it?
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone use a final drive guard?   Anyone use a final drive guard? Icon_minitime1Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:03 pm

I've got one but took it off after Pete suggested it might rip my brake caliper off if I went down. A new CARC is bulk $$. Of course, I went down and now have a scratched CARC, but a functional brake.

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PostSubject: Re: Anyone use a final drive guard?   Anyone use a final drive guard? Icon_minitime1Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:19 pm

Hmmm, interesting dilemma...thanks for the reply
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone use a final drive guard?   Anyone use a final drive guard? Icon_minitime1Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:59 pm

For race bikes crank case and clutch covers must have a steel or carbon cover to save spilling oil on track in the event of a crash. The carbon covers can be quite thick but moulded to exact shape of the alloy, it looks good.

Too easy for some body to make one for the CARC ........................................
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone use a final drive guard?   Anyone use a final drive guard? Icon_minitime1Fri Oct 24, 2014 10:28 am

beetle wrote:
… it might rip my brake caliper off if I went down."

As long as you don't bring er down on an aircraft carrier grabbing the catch rope …
Are there any bodies of proof in the case of broken calipers due to carc guards?
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone use a final drive guard?   Anyone use a final drive guard? Icon_minitime1Fri Oct 24, 2014 12:52 pm

I have the one from AF1 its ok but I like the GuzziTech one better [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

I am going to add a piece of nylon to mine to brace it against the CARC.

My philosophy on this part is that for a tip over (more likely) it will be fine, for a major crash
I have my insurance. I have not seen evidence of damage from these guards yet. I have dropped bike before and I will likely drop this one sometime...
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone use a final drive guard?   Anyone use a final drive guard? Icon_minitime1Fri Oct 24, 2014 1:20 pm

These versions from Stucchi Luigi seem to me to be the best "sacrificial" option.

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PostSubject: Re: Anyone use a final drive guard?   Anyone use a final drive guard? Icon_minitime1Fri Oct 24, 2014 1:21 pm

I have one of the Guzzitech versions, and have dropped the bike twice on it.   No damage to the brake mounts, and no damage to the CARC, but of course the guard itself is now scratched.  I am an advocate, although I also think Pete's concerns are valid. The GT version features that rubber bumpstop so there's less chance of the guard "levering" the brake mounting bolts when the bike falls on it.
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone use a final drive guard?   Anyone use a final drive guard? Icon_minitime1Fri Oct 24, 2014 3:17 pm

Diedel, I have no proof or evidence, I simply trust Pete's concerns re the guard. I have no wish to find out either.

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PostSubject: Re: Anyone use a final drive guard?   Anyone use a final drive guard? Icon_minitime1Fri Oct 24, 2014 4:52 pm

My concerns are just that, concerns. They may be unfounded but the fact remains that the guards mount on the brake mounts and in the event of a major Biff there is the chance of them buggering the mounts. That worries me. Also it's adding yet more unsprung weight to the rear wheel. Sod that, it's heavy enough as it is!

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PostSubject: Re: Anyone use a final drive guard?   Anyone use a final drive guard? Icon_minitime1Fri Oct 24, 2014 5:11 pm

If the Stucchi cover was black of C/F it would at least look unobtrusive. But alloy or stainless are both heavy and ugly by comparison, both could dent or puncture quite easily with resultant damage underneath to the CARC housing.

A similar wrap around in 5mm thick carbon but smaller and bonded to the CARC instead of unsightly and heavy brackets and bolts, would be the best result IMMHO.

I also concur with Pete's comment regarding unsprung weight. Having fitted my C/F wheels and feeling the difference in ride quality, I don't want to reverse that gain by adding more weight.
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone use a final drive guard?   Anyone use a final drive guard? Icon_minitime1Sat Oct 25, 2014 8:54 pm

Steak wrote:
These versions from Stucchi Luigi seem to me to be the best "sacrificial" option.

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Couldn't that white thing be painted black or whatever color?
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone use a final drive guard?   Anyone use a final drive guard? Icon_minitime1Sat Oct 25, 2014 9:14 pm

It could be painted any colour you like. I was actually thinking that something like that made of plastic would be great. Light, cheap, easy to replace if it got damaged. I was actually thinking it would add another nice highlight to my bike if I painted it the same blue as the other bits and bobs, or perhaps paint it gold to match the Yella Forks. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Anyone use a final drive guard?   Anyone use a final drive guard? Icon_minitime1Sun Oct 26, 2014 3:26 am

And to think you would label me as crass and vulgar if I put the chrome tank on my bike. WTF!
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone use a final drive guard?   Anyone use a final drive guard? Icon_minitime1Sun Oct 26, 2014 3:30 am

If that white bit was made of C/F, it would blend in, be very light and they are renown for their strength. If you already had a scratched up CARC, glueing/bonding C/F to it would hide the damage.

I might have to use your borrowed CARC Pete to investigate this.
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone use a final drive guard?   Anyone use a final drive guard? Icon_minitime1Sun Oct 26, 2014 3:31 am

ghezzi wrote:
And to think you would label me as crass and vulgar if I put the chrome tank on my bike. WTF!

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PostSubject: Re: Anyone use a final drive guard?   Anyone use a final drive guard? Icon_minitime1Sun Oct 26, 2014 10:01 am

ghezzi wrote:

If that white bit was made of C/F, it would blend in, be very light and they are renown for their strength ... I might have to use your borrowed CARC Pete to investigate this.

I double-dog-dare ya!
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone use a final drive guard?   Anyone use a final drive guard? Icon_minitime1Sun Oct 26, 2014 11:11 am

ghezzi wrote:
If that white bit was made of C/F, it would blend in, be very light and they are renown for their strength. If you already had a scratched up CARC, glueing/bonding C/F to it would hide the damage.

I might have to use your borrowed CARC Pete to investigate this.

if it was in C/F i would be interested cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone use a final drive guard?   Anyone use a final drive guard? Icon_minitime1Mon Oct 27, 2014 6:39 am

You could also just wait. If you dump the bike and scratch up the CARC you can get the Stucchi version to hide the scratches.
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone use a final drive guard?   Anyone use a final drive guard? Icon_minitime1Mon Oct 27, 2014 7:41 am

Spaceknight wrote:
You could also just wait. If you dump the bike and scratch up the CARC you can get the Stucchi version to hide the scratches.


That is clever!   cheers

I originally bought the Guzzitech guard for the Norge.

Then, after getting the GRiSO, realized that panniers might protect Norge’s CARC and swapped it to the GRiSO.

Good thing, too.  In September 2013, found myself slammed to the pavement from some unseen sand  Sad in a near 90-degree righthand turn on SR 42 (what a grand, grand road!) in SW Virginia.

Here are some pix of guard and gear … and first aid  Wink — mostly for bruised ego  Embarassed — on getting home.  

Note that I had to add some washers to get guard to “stand off” from the CARC, as I was worried that it might collapse at the mounting points and defeat the purpose.  Not.   Am mindful of Pete’s concerns over damaging brake housing, tho learned of that after-the-fact, and, based on my dump’s results, inclined to keep it on.

Note, too, that was not "lucky" enough to simply bend my rear-brake lever, but the pork chop broke at its mounting point.   Crying or Very sad

Am also inclined to continue wearing ATGATT; Lordy, I’d be even uglier had I not had on that full-face helmet.  




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Best to all my fellow “dumpers,”

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PostSubject: Re: Anyone use a final drive guard?   Anyone use a final drive guard? Icon_minitime1Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:18 pm

That scratched up face shield sure is manly!!!! Smile
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