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PostSubject: Re: Motorcycle mirrors I have known..   Motorcycle mirrors I have known.. - Page 3 Icon_minitime1Sun Jan 20, 2019 11:24 pm

So Mark,
If you still have your Aprilia mirrors and would like to get some of that $826.54 back, let me know. I still have the horrid chrome originals. I have had the Aprilia mirrors before on my two Aprilias prior to going GRiSO.
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PostSubject: Re: Motorcycle mirrors I have known..   Motorcycle mirrors I have known.. - Page 3 Icon_minitime1Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:21 am


You can have them for cost of postage. PM me your snail mail address.


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PostSubject: Re: Motorcycle mirrors I have known..   Motorcycle mirrors I have known.. - Page 3 Icon_minitime1Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:38 am


So, I ordered these for my Stornello.


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I can sense your sneers from here  Very Happy  ... where, btw, it's a bit cooler just now, -15C! -- than there:

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I don't see a moto-ride in my immediate future.  Shocked

We have been able to drive down the drive in the snow, but this deepfreeze makes it stooopid even to try iceskating in a car.  No

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As one who has bought many cheapies, I do not sneer. However, I must ask. Are you planning on machining the inserts off the mirrors? Drilling out the bars? Or perhaps a nice black spacer?

Or do you have aftermarket handle bars? scratch


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I drilled my handlebars to install these mirrors. Like you Beetle, I have gone through a ton of bar end mirrors not only for the GRiSO but other bikes too.

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beetle wrote:

As one who has bought many cheapies, I do not sneer. However, I must ask. Are you planning on machining the inserts off the mirrors? Drilling out the bars? Or perhaps a nice black spacer?

Or do you have aftermarket handle bars? scratch


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You mean I can't believe the Chinese vendor that "This will fit the Moto Guzzi Stornello?" Wink I am crushed. Sad

Seriously, I have had (surprisingly to me) great success with all of the alibaba stuff I've ordered, either in it worked or easy return. So, I figure I'll see how they look and work ... or don't.

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PostSubject: Re: Motorcycle mirrors I have known..   Motorcycle mirrors I have known.. - Page 3 Icon_minitime1Mon Jan 21, 2019 6:03 pm


It'll fit after modification! Twisted Evil


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beetle wrote:

It'll fit after modification! Twisted Evil


cheers



Hmmmmmm.

So it would seem.

I had hoped that your pic was a generic one they used for all.  Not.


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I sent an inquiry, covered in diplo-dust, as I have never understood urinating off vendors ... well, until they arouse my competitive instincts.   cheers

Suspect I'll have $20 lesson; I've paid more for less.   Rolling Eyes

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Your journey is not yet over, my young apprentice. These are not the mirrors you've been looking for..

(Waves hand hypnotically)






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beetle wrote:

Your journey is not yet over, my young apprentice. These are not the mirrors you've been looking for..

(Waves hand hypnotically)






Just put $19 delivered ebay mirrors on my Brutale, RHS mirror perfect, LHS droopy ball joint syndrome with no adjust Sad... hmmmm next....

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Beetle, I'd be interested to know what you considered to be the best of the cheepies.  I'd like to fit bar ends on mine, but there's no way I could justify £200+ for those REALY nice ones you've got, especially now that greasing the swingarm bearings has cost the best part of £150. Crying or Very sad Got to build up some brownie points with the misses again now. Rolling Eyes
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Mick, if you've got standard bars, then this style. They have adjustable ball tension and are buzz free.

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Thanks Mark Thumbs Up
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beetle wrote:

Your journey is not yet over, my young apprentice. These are not the mirrors you've been looking for..

(Waves hand hypnotically)



Indubitably.  Sad

Got this from vendor (whose "red star" rating seems wonderfully apt  Wink ):

New message from: guangshenwe_0  Top Rated Seller(1,634Red Star)

Dear,sorry to hear that
if possible,could you show us more detail by picture,as we can show to supplier?
so we can figure out what's wrong with situation .
plz also give us the year, make and the model of your bike
many thanks
don't worry,any issue we can solve for you
if the item can't fit your bike,we can refund for you
we need the picture to show why the item can't fit your bike?
we will help once get your reply
sincerely

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Will see how this goes.  bounce

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So the plug in the end of the bars does not screw out like the GRiSO?
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sideshowbob wrote:
So the plug in the end of the bars does not screw out like the GRiSO?

Well, yes comma but.

See these pix.

Mebbe I am just missing something obvious.  Wouldn't be the first time.   Rolling Eyes


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sideshowbob wrote:
So the plug in the end of the bars does not screw out like the GRiSO?


Nope.


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I await instructions from the Middle Kingdom. Wink
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I have a solution for you Bill, but it involves an increase in expenditure.


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beetle wrote:

I have a solution for you Bill, but it involves an increase in expenditure.


pale



Uhm.

OK, what sort of increa$e?  Shocked

In the meantime, would that provide as much entertainment as my present situation?

Just got this in from the People's Republic of Capitalism:

"New message from: guangshenwe_0 (1,636)

Dear,thank you for your picture.
in your picture,we can see the your handlebar design.
would you mind see the attached picture.
sorry for this case.
how about we half refund for this case,could you accept this case in your bike?
in this case,we don't have the instruction to help you make modifications.
or do you have any better solution?please let us know what can we do the best for you .
we will help ASAP once get your reply
sincerely

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In case you cannot read the words they added to my provided photo, those say "As your handlebar design, it can't insert the item anymore."

Well, yes, I think they understand.  cheers

So, while it is interesting that their first offer was to provide a full refund, I am fearful that if I fight on the theory that they previously said that I would get a full refund, and, after all, it was their ad that incorrectly claimed it would fit my Stornello, that the new offer will be 1/4 refund!  If I keep arguing, pretty soon I'll owe them money! Rolling Eyes

On the bright side, it is only $20.

Besides (and sort of seriously), what do you or others think about just sawing off that offending protrusion and then grinding down the stub so that it would fit flush against the grip?

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My 2¢


Mr Hagan wrote:
OK, what sort of increa$e?


$52 US dollars. Plus shipping.


Alternative plan, by Beetle:


I would not drill, grind, smack with very large hammer, or otherwise deface the handlebars. The threaded "insert" is press fit into the bars, then either crimped or welded. I don't know exactly how far into the bars they go, but the interwebs reckon 5mm.


If there is enough "meat" in the new mirror fitting, as indicated by the arrows in the below pic, I would either cut or grind off the protruding teat, and then drill the fitting deep enough to slip over the bar insert.


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Thoughts?


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I like it!
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Excuse my ignorance Bill, but is there some sort of screw fitting that goes into the black bar end and the handlebar? As Beetle suggested cut off teat and drill the fitting or maybe an ali spacer to fit over lump in handlebar.
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Stubbie wrote:
Excuse my ignorance Bill, but is there some sort of screw fitting that goes into the black bar end and the handlebar? As Beetle suggested cut off teat and drill the fitting or maybe an ali spacer to fit over lump in handlebar.

Just back from over-eating out and about to do same to a bottle here at home. Will respond tomorrow.

Oh .... thanks Mr. Beetle. I may actually be capable of that fix. May. If not, $53 might be the answer. Now, I have to respond to my commie-capitalist handlers. cheers

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Bill Hagan wrote:
beetle wrote:

I have a solution for you Bill, but it involves an increase in expenditure.


pale



Uhm.

OK, what sort of increa$e?  Shocked

In the meantime, would that provide as much entertainment as my present situation?

Just got this in from the People's Republic of Capitalism:

"New message from: guangshenwe_0 (1,636)

Dear,thank you for your picture.
in your picture,we can see the your handlebar design.
would you mind see the attached picture.
sorry for this case.
how about we half refund for this case,could you accept this case in your bike?
in this case,we don't have the instruction to help you make modifications.
or do you have any better solution?please let us know what can we do the best for you .
we will help ASAP once get your reply
sincerely

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In case you cannot read the words they added to my provided photo, those say "As your handlebar design, it can't insert the item anymore."

Well, yes, I think they understand.  cheers

So, while it is interesting that their first offer was to provide a full refund, I am fearful that if I fight on the theory that they previously said that I would get a full refund, and, after all, it was their ad that incorrectly claimed it would fit my Stornello, that the new offer will be 1/4 refund!  If I keep arguing, pretty soon I'll owe them money! Rolling Eyes

On the bright side, it is only $20.

Besides (and sort of seriously), what do you or others think about just sawing off that offending protrusion and then grinding down the stub so that it would fit flush against the grip?

Bill

While their reply is quite amusing, Ebay has quite good customer protection systems. Just insist on a full refund if their add stated it would work for your bike. If they don't agree open a case with ebay. The vendor will have x days/weeks to properly solve it. If they refuse to refund you, ebay will judge the case and reimburse you themselves and put sanctions on the vendor. But in my experience the vendors will never let it get that far.
I had one send me like a half a dozen emails begging me to close the case against them because it caused 'big problems' for them. But since I didn't trust them too much I didn't until I got the replacement item, as you cannot re-open a case you closed. Obviously when I got the replacement item I did close the case.
Also had another incident with a crooked vendor who never send the item and didn't reply. Ebay actually send me a message before I even opened a ticket, warning me that the vendor may have been fraudulent and that I was eligible for reimbursement if the item had not been received by me.
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