I have the Obits and the earlier soft bags.
As you, I was never quite happy with the first. The Orbits are just fine for carrying a credit card in one and cell phone in the other.
Seriously, they will improve both your self discipline and packing skills along with enlarging your vocabulary when you realize you can't take what you (thought you'd) need.
Now, all of that said, when used with a tank and tail bag on any overnighters, etc., you can (almost) carry what you need.
P.S. If you get either of these newer ones, be smarter than I was and be very -- as in VERY -- sure that you engage the locks and mounts. That is especially so if you have a brand-new Garmin 396 GPS, still in its unopened box, inside the unsecured bag. $igh.