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PostSubject: Rear light unit not ok   Rear light unit not ok Icon_minitime1Wed Aug 24, 2022 6:44 am

After turning ignition switch the rear light did not illuminate.
Front light however did.
After several attempts with the switch it worked but stopped when using brake.

measured 12volt in the plug for braking and normal light.
It seems that my rear led light is on its way to GRiSO heaven.

Pulled on the wiring but no light. Cleaned the plug no result.
Can't find anything that is related to my kind of issue.
Seems like this does not happen verry often.

Sombody a suggestion?

New rear light costs 130 euro grrrr

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PostSubject: Re: Rear light unit not ok   Rear light unit not ok Icon_minitime1Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:11 am

Yup, it sounds like it's gone and deaded itself. Being an LED light I imagine there is a transformer in it somewhere to step down the voltage. Chances are that has shat the bed. As you say, failures are rare, I think I've seen two since 2005, on Grisos at least. They do come up on fleabay from time to time but given how reliable they generally are perhaps it would be best to just buy one while they are still available and hope that it remains sound.
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PostSubject: Re: Rear light unit not ok   Rear light unit not ok Icon_minitime1Wed Aug 24, 2022 4:10 pm

The bulbs were all incandescent originally.  The headlight was pathetic, so it was first to be replaced -I fitted an OSRAM 7" Round Black Led Headlight (105W).

Tail light is normally second to gain attention.  It too was an incandescent duel filament bulb, which is usually replaced with a dual LED setup.

But losing both tail-lights at once is not common.  Perhaps the common return wire has lost contact with the frame or battery negative.  Simple check with a short piece of wire will determine if it has.
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PostSubject: Re: Rear light unit not ok   Rear light unit not ok Icon_minitime1Wed Aug 24, 2022 4:12 pm

Pete Roper wrote:
Yup, it sounds like it's gone and deaded itself. Being an LED light I imagine there is a transformer in it somewhere to step down the voltage

Sorry Pete, but transformers do not work in a direct current environment.
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PostSubject: Re: Rear light unit not ok   Rear light unit not ok Icon_minitime1Wed Aug 24, 2022 5:18 pm

Cool. That's why I leave it up to clever people to answer technical electrical questions as a rule Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Rear light unit not ok   Rear light unit not ok Icon_minitime1Wed Aug 24, 2022 11:20 pm

Will visit TLM today. Maybe they want to test the taillight. If failed, ill buy a new one.
Sometimes the light will illuminate. After hitting the brake all fall out.
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PostSubject: Re: Rear light unit not ok   Rear light unit not ok Icon_minitime1Thu Aug 25, 2022 1:21 am

Taillight start working . The mighty GRiSO repaired itself.
Think the electrical spray did it´s job.  
(though i think the complaint will occur soon)
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PostSubject: Re: Rear light unit not ok   Rear light unit not ok Icon_minitime1Thu Aug 25, 2022 1:50 am

Deepdive wrote:
Taillight start working . The mighty GRiSO repaired itself.
Think the electrical spray did it´s job.  
(though i think the complaint will occur soon)

This points to Kiwi-Dave's point about the "common return" or earth/ground wire.

If more than one electrical component is jointly wired in a plastic insulated box (like the rear light unit)
then a poor or intermittent earth/ground connection for the whole unit means that one component may reach earth through the other component.
so you get apparently weird effects

Check the earth return - blue wire

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PostSubject: Re: Rear light unit not ok   Rear light unit not ok Icon_minitime1Thu Aug 25, 2022 6:05 am

Indeed, Kiwi was right.
The reason why i checked again this morning.
Thanks ghetto.
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PostSubject: Re: Rear light unit not ok   Rear light unit not ok Icon_minitime1Thu Aug 25, 2022 11:17 am

Pete Roper wrote:
perhaps it would be best to just buy one while they are still available

Took that to heart and ordered one for the shelf
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PostSubject: Re: Rear light unit not ok   Rear light unit not ok Icon_minitime1Tue Sep 20, 2022 10:18 am

Complaint was intermittent. So bought new from TLM.
Solved the issue.
Seems like the taillight can be opened. Assume nobody ever did, cause normaly there´s no issue with the taillight´s of GRiSO[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
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