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PostSubject: Re: EICMA 2017   Sat Oct 28, 2017 12:24 am

Me too!

Just shows, that according to this source, GRiSO is still sold in US
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PostSubject: Re: EICMA 2017   Sat Oct 28, 2017 12:43 am

Which is great. I think they are still selling them here as 2017/18 models but the fact remains they stopped making them in mid 2016. At least that is my firm belief. It's like 1200 Sport-8V's, they were selling them in Oz as 2015 models but production ceased in 2011! That's why none were ever made with rollers!

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PostSubject: Re: EICMA 2017   Sat Oct 28, 2017 9:23 pm

Last year of production for CARC bikes was 2015...
Left over production (mostly US market) is titled as 2016 and 2017 but built in 15 anyway.
Stop masturbating, GRiSO is dead...
As for the V9, It's a joke so it doesn't matter which configuration they come up with that mill.
Until they fill the gap between 900cc and 1400cc with a NON cruiser crap, nothing to see here, move along folks! lol
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PostSubject: Re: EICMA 2017   Sat Oct 28, 2017 9:42 pm

Nup. They were still building them in mid 2016. There was a pallet of 1200 motors labeled 'GRiSO' on the assembly line floor when we were there for the 95th aniversary bash. I think they were probably close to the last though....

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PostSubject: Re: EICMA 2017   Sun Oct 29, 2017 2:09 am

Good morning GRiSO guys,

The Tokyo motor show is over now.
Please have a look to this amazing bike:

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During 1976 and 1980 I owned (prowdly) three Kawas: Z750/Z650/Z1000. It was a fantastic period of time. But I never owned the Z900 (Frankenstein's daughter as it was called by a German motorcycle yournalist).

This was the time, when proud riders named there bikes "machine" and not "moped" as it is used by today in the German speaking countries.

Fortunately, after decades of futuristic design monsters, Kawasaki turns back to the successful bikes of the 70th, which created fun and emotions to our generation.

If Guzzi will not present new concepts at Eicma 2017, which will create such emotions, I will think about to purchase it as third bike besides my GRiSO and BMW enduro. We will see end of next week!

Congratulations - a good idea - and for sure a big success story!
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PostSubject: Re: EICMA 2017   Sun Oct 29, 2017 3:48 am

Pete Roper wrote:
Nup. They were still building them in mid 2016. There was a pallet of 1200 motors labeled 'GRiSO' on the assembly line floor when we were there for the 95th aniversary bash. I think they were probably close to the last though....

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My bad.
New York importer was full of shit then...told me they stopped production late 2015...
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PostSubject: Re: EICMA 2017   Sun Oct 29, 2017 9:36 am

I got an press invitation from Piaggio for the Eima, there they mention a new engine in a prototype bike.
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PostSubject: Re: EICMA 2017   Sun Oct 29, 2017 10:18 am

Hopefully a 1200cc in a single arm scenario... Smile
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PostSubject: Re: EICMA 2017   Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:55 am

This is the presentation of Moto Guzzi at Eicma in Milano from today on the press event:

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The new V85 concept with 850 cc V 90 and 80 hp.

For a touring-enduro my personal wish was at least 950 cc and 95 hp.

Let's see!
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PostSubject: Re: EICMA 2017   Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:02 am

New picture, published just a few minutes ago from the other side:

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Viewing it for a second time:

In any case, looks much more attractive then Stelvio
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PostSubject: Re: EICMA 2017   Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:09 am

Here is the link to all news:

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PostSubject: Re: EICMA 2017   Tue Nov 07, 2017 2:17 pm

Il GRiSO wrote:

In any case, looks much more attractive then Stelvio



You're kidding, right? It looks like a cartoon character. Rolling Eyes

No rising rate suspension.

Suspect
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PostSubject: Re: EICMA 2017   Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:26 pm

I don't want to sound negative, but .....................

1. The V7 was/is a small and relatively light weight bike, the sole reason for making it a sweet ride.
2. The addition of capacity/power would be an improvement, however ............
3. It looks to have gained much size and weight.
4. When you add all the "adventure" fruit, it will be a porker. (McDonald's supersize)
5. Still twin shock.
6. Swingarm angle and front forks suggests no real increase in travel.
7. Guaranteed prototypes quality running gear will be dropped for cheap shit in production.


thanks for the correction Pete, getting sloppy in my old age.


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PostSubject: Re: EICMA 2017   Tue Nov 07, 2017 8:37 pm

Swing arm is twin sided with single cantilever shock. Budget, if not poverty pack.

I want to know what's under the rocker covers....
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PostSubject: Re: EICMA 2017   Wed Nov 08, 2017 5:00 am

Hmmmmm. Mebbe the bash plate will fit my Stornello. cheers

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PostSubject: Re: EICMA 2017   Wed Nov 08, 2017 5:07 am

So...still a void to fill between 900 and 1400cc!!
Although a roller 8V 900 mill on a light frame could be a winner in that bracket...
Not a bike for me anyway, I don't do wanna be off road types. Besides, I'm only 5.7 so it would have to be real light like the sadly no longer produced 650 XRR or similar.
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PostSubject: Re: EICMA 2017   Mon Nov 13, 2017 4:08 am

Wish the concept/prototype were more Stornello/V7 Scrambler than Stelvio. I agree with Mark - this one looks like a cartoon. Once can only hope a more 'sophisticated' color is available if/when production happens.
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PostSubject: Re: EICMA 2017   Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:32 am

I like it, even the colors. I used to have a Bumble Bee R100GS and my race Guzzi and leathers were black and yellow.

If it didn't inevitably weigh over 500 pounds, I'd buy it
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PostSubject: Re: EICMA 2017   Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:49 am

Il GRiSO wrote:
This is the presentation of Moto Guzzi at Eicma in Milano from today on the press event:

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The new V85 concept with 850 cc V 90 and 80 hp.

For a touring-enduro my personal wish was at least 950 cc and 95 hp.

Let's see!

Kinda describes the Stelvio.

If indeed this new bike does come in at 80hp and 440lbs, it will have a power to weight ratio very close to the Stelvio.
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PostSubject: Re: EICMA 2017   Wed Nov 15, 2017 4:24 am

EricS wrote:
Wish the concept/prototype were more Stornello/V7 Scrambler than Stelvio. I agree with Mark - this one looks like a cartoon. Once can only hope a more 'sophisticated' color is available if/when production happens.
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Interesting that this view of the white one has black valve covers. I don't know how much of this stuff is simply photoshopped, but it's helpful to imagine different schemes. I like it.

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