My good friend Gregg Farebrother visited me in the Vic High Country from Sydney over the weekend. He came armed with the guzzidiag stuff and a spaghetti factory of cables and uploaded my recently purchased 1100 map from Beetle. After saving the old map to the computer we uploaded the new map. The only slight issue I had with the 1100 was fuel use. It was averaging circa 5.5 litres per 100kms (not terrible, but a tad greedy). This was mostly due to high indicated usage when pushing through 120 kms to say 140/150 where the ave fuel indicated circa 9 litres per 100km. After 2 modest rides yesterday and today the usage is down to 5.0 litres per 100kms. In particular the fuel usage under real load dropped to the high 6.0's so a real gain here for prolonged spirited riding.
What did impress and surprise me significantly was the roll on smoothness the new map presented. I was not unhappy with the existing roll on, especially hard up through 3rd 4th and 5th gears. However, the new map gave a significant improvement in response time, the engine spooled up more quickly and accelerated more quickly. I don't think this will translate into more top end performance (wasn't looking for it any way), however the bike will get up there more quickly and smoothly. I regarded this aspect as an unexpected and delightful bonus. The bike feels so much more in tune with me now. So a big hats off Beatle, for developing such a good map and making a lovely bike into a gem, and to Gregg for helping me get there. Thank you both.
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Grisodude Tiradritto
Posts : 365 Join date : 2013-07-02 Age : 63
Subject: Re: Beetle's GRiSO 1100 Map Sun Nov 26, 2017 12:41 am
Yes Beetle sent me a 1100 map. And I do not know how he did it but my bike is as smooth as silk. The guy is a legend in my books. Yes Beetle take a bow as you have earned it.
Mind sharing the map filename? I have an old beetle map on my G1100, and though it was a massive improvement over the original, I'm curious if things could be even better for the old girl. Still starts revving high after warming up until you pull the revs down with some clutch-brake action.
I’m curious about getting a map too. The GRiSO I bought has a Zard exhaust and I have no idea if it was tunned properly afterwards. Haven’t had chance to really feel it out and measure the mpg as it’s been so cold in the northeast US.
supercoyote Tanabuso
Posts : 69 Join date : 2015-06-16
Subject: Re: Beetle's GRiSO 1100 Map Sun Jan 28, 2018 11:13 am
Biggest difference I noticed was the disappearance of the on off throttle response. It smoothed it out completely becoming more like a carbed bike than a light switch
BB43215 GRiSO Capo
Posts : 94 Join date : 2017-11-20 Age : 58
Subject: Re: Beetle's GRiSO 1100 Map Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:13 pm
Hi all. Just curious. I noticed that for the 8V there’s a different map for every exhaust system out there. Why is there only the one for the 1100? Thanks.
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beetle GRiSO Capo
Posts : 10180 Join date : 2013-09-30
Subject: Re: Beetle's GRiSO 1100 Map Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:26 pm
Simples. I've had access to all those 8V pipes. 1100, not so much.
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BB43215 GRiSO Capo
Posts : 94 Join date : 2017-11-20 Age : 58
Subject: Re: Beetle's GRiSO 1100 Map Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:30 pm
Ah. So with non OEM exhaust I shouldn’t bother?
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beetle GRiSO Capo
Posts : 10180 Join date : 2013-09-30
Subject: Re: Beetle's GRiSO 1100 Map Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:46 pm
What you want? The 'OEM' map will work on most pipes with a dB killer, with a CO trim adjustment. The 2V engine isn't as needy as the 8V. No combustion chamber charge transition issues, for example.
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davem Tiradritto
Posts : 309 Join date : 2013-12-17
Subject: Re: Beetle's GRiSO 1100 Map Mon Feb 19, 2018 3:50 am
I am currently doing some data logging on my GRiSO 1100 which I will shortly share on the forum. One thing I can say is that taking the db killer out the Termi silencer does nothing for the performance whatsoever. It actually makes the engine run slightly weaker creating a harsher feeling to the power delivery.
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Jonathun Squinternotto
Posts : 5 Join date : 2014-04-19 Age : 64
Subject: Re: Beetle's GRiSO 1100 Map Sat Mar 03, 2018 11:58 pm
I installed Beetle's 8V Zard NoCat map on my 2009 GRiSO yesterday and took it for first shake down today. Impressed, although my bike still has flat tappets saw an immediate improvement accross the whole rev range. Bike no longer pops and crackles on a closed throttle (which all my co-riders used to comment on), throttle response is much smoother especially notable at low speed and the bike just feels much more in tune. Love it, this has been the best money spent on the beast and if you are running a GRiSO with aftermarkets just do it. Next step is to upgrade to roller tappets, what is involved here, is it just the replacement of tappets or are new cams needed?
Pete Roper GRiSO Capo
Posts : 10667 Join date : 2013-05-29 Age : 67
Subject: Re: Beetle's GRiSO 1100 Map Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:45 am
It's a kit. The entire camboxes are replaced. Everything north of the heads and in the case of earlier machines the heads have to be removed to install shims under the valve Spring seats on the inlet valves.
What year is your bike? How many Km has it done? Where are you?
Whoops. 2009 will need a 'C' kit or equivalent. Do it soon.
I take it you mean a Zard? Buy cables, download Guzzidiag + drivers to laptop (Don't forget to donate.) Buy map. Read and store current map. Upload Beetlemap. Tune bike properly. Go ride
VTwin Montanarolo
Posts : 10 Join date : 2020-10-30
Subject: Re: Beetle's GRiSO 1100 Map Sat Oct 15, 2022 2:45 pm
Hi all!
I know this topic is 4 years old, but I have a question because i've found something interesting..
Any days before I joint the ghetto I beetlelysed my 1100 GRiSO with OEM air filter and MIVV Pipe with dB inside. This legend map changed the bike to it's best...you know what I mean, smooth under 3000rpm, no crackling or popping ...it's unbeliveable. This time only maps for OEM pipes was available, for 850 and 1100. I've try the original pipe sometimes, and yes, it runs a little bit better, a little more torgue...but I like the sound of the MIVV and it runs and so it still the aftermarket exhaust on the GRiSO.
Now I found that Marc has presented new maps for aftermarket exhaust for the 1100. Wow! That's it ...was my first reaction. But...now the question, what is better now when I load a map for aftermarket exhaust. What is changed?
beetle GRiSO Capo
Posts : 10180 Join date : 2013-09-30
Subject: Re: Beetle's GRiSO 1100 Map Sat Oct 15, 2022 6:19 pm
The 'no cat' map has a bit more fuel to improve low and midrange torque.
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orngm2 Tanabuso
Posts : 61 Join date : 2019-01-30
Subject: Re: Beetle's GRiSO 1100 Map Sat Nov 12, 2022 2:33 pm
Loaded the GRiSO 1100 map yesterday... transformed the bike. No more popping, smooth roll on, and killer mid range. Money well spent... great job and thank you sir.