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davem
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PostSubject: Becker-Technik lifter   Becker-Technik lifter Icon_minitime1Mon Feb 12, 2018 3:12 am

I recently bought a Becker-Technik lifter/stand and was less than impressed with the design.


Here is their video:
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And here is the lift on their web site:
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First thing I found was the bushes on the lift that locate to the bolt heads on the frame where too small in bore diameter to fit the bolt heads securely.
I had to remove the bolts and reduce the heads diameter until they located to the lift bushes, not a good start.

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This got the lift attached to the bike then the fun and games started. I couldn't get the bike upright and was risking a hernia and/or dropping the bike so sat back and had a think.
Off came the lift wheels and I bolted on a length of tubing which was laying around onto the lift side plate.

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Hey presto the thing worked and up came the bike.

I may have missed something here and be getting a bit feeble in my dotage but I really could not have used the lifter without that extension bar. Becker do supply a lifting handle for the Jackal version so maybe they think GRiSO owners are a stronger bunch, who knows.

I did email the company and here is their response:

"Hello David,
thank you for you feedback.
I am sorry that you are not satisfied
The sockets at the lifter go just a little bit over the screw heads.
This is so that the black paint behind it is not damaged. So far this
has always worked.
I've always been able to do the lifting well as shown in the video. Is
your GRiSO possibly lowered? Then to lift up gets heavier.
At the end of the arms are 4-sqare holes. In it you can insert a tool
ratchet for extension to make the lifting easier.
I hope you can use the lifter anyway.
Cheers

Simon Becker,"

The bike is not lowered and there is no mention of using a wrench to aid lifting in their literature.

I am now using the stand and to be fair with my mods it is now a good bit of kit holding the bike solidly. The front can be jacked under the sump to get both wheels off he ground and I now have managed to  grease the rear suspension linkage easily and safely.
But you really should not have to piss around to get the thing to work properly.
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PostSubject: Re: Becker-Technik lifter   Becker-Technik lifter Icon_minitime1Mon Feb 12, 2018 3:51 am

I never had problems with the Becker part when using it like a main stand. Putting Your right foot on the short lever and grabbing the bike at the streetbar and the passenger's footrest it will come up easily when using all your weight. And with me that's not too much with 76 kg Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Becker-Technik lifter   Becker-Technik lifter Icon_minitime1Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:38 am

mine works perfectly too

as mentioned, right foot step on the short lever, left hand on left grip, right hand on left pillion foot rest, minimum effort.

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PostSubject: Re: Becker-Technik lifter   Becker-Technik lifter Icon_minitime1Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:39 am

Same here, never really had any issues with it. There is a 3/4" square hole cut into the arms that will allow you to use a 3/4" breaker bar that gives you more leverage. It works an extension that does the same thing as your bolt on extension, I've used it from time to time.
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PostSubject: Re: Becker-Technik lifter   Becker-Technik lifter Icon_minitime1Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:13 pm

No problems here, either. Although I did get the screws machined down like you did. It made me feel more secure.





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PostSubject: Re: Becker-Technik lifter   Becker-Technik lifter Icon_minitime1Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:25 pm

No problems using mine. At my age, I have been known to use the breaker bar "extension" if it's late in the day... Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Becker-Technik lifter   Becker-Technik lifter Icon_minitime1Mon Feb 12, 2018 3:25 pm

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No problems here either, but I did find you want to crank the wing nuts really tight.
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PostSubject: Re: Becker-Technik lifter   Becker-Technik lifter Icon_minitime1Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:51 pm

No problems here either. I like to use the 3 foot breaker bar. Work smart, not hard. Love my GRiSO lifter, I have no complaints.
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PostSubject: Re: Becker-Technik lifter   Becker-Technik lifter Icon_minitime1Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:37 am

Thanks for the response about the lifter. I still think Becker should have supplied a lifting handle and the clamping action on the bolt heads is not ideal but hey the rest of you all can't be wrong.
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PostSubject: Re: Becker-Technik lifter   Becker-Technik lifter Icon_minitime1Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:54 am

from your description, it seems like your GRiSO Lifter is a little too tall out of the box

I am very happy with the GRiSO Lifter, bought another one for my V11 Sport, they look very similar except the V11 Sport Lifter didn't come with the short extension bits for the pinch sockets

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maybe you can share some measurements of your GRiSO Lift to compare with ours?
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PostSubject: Re: Becker-Technik lifter   Becker-Technik lifter Icon_minitime1Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:06 am

Phang wrote:
from your description, it seems like your GRiSO Lifter is a little too tall out of the box

I am very happy with the GRiSO Lifter, bought another one for my V11 Sport, they look very similar except the V11 Sport Lifter didn't come with the short extension bits for the pinch sockets

maybe you can share some measurements of your GRiSO Lift to compare with ours?


Looking at the height your rear wheel is off the ground I doubt my lifter is too tall.
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PostSubject: Re: Becker-Technik lifter   Becker-Technik lifter Icon_minitime1Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:29 am

davem wrote:

Looking at the height your rear wheel is off the ground I doubt my lifter is too tall.

There are two diff spots you can use the lifter, have you tried both?


edit. Hello all, new GRiSO owner here..
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PostSubject: Re: Becker-Technik lifter   Becker-Technik lifter Icon_minitime1Sun Apr 01, 2018 12:16 pm

-figured it out-


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PostSubject: Re: Becker-Technik lifter   Becker-Technik lifter Icon_minitime1Sun Apr 01, 2018 3:08 pm

2mm of engagement is about right. I queried BT about it and they told me it's correct. I didn't feel comfortable with only 2mm each side holding up that much weight, so I got some screws with the heads machined down to 10mm. They then engaged 100%. However, many people use them the way they come without issue.




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PostSubject: Re: Becker-Technik lifter   Becker-Technik lifter Icon_minitime1Sun Apr 01, 2018 7:43 pm

I use mine the way it is with no issues. I figure if it slipped off the screws then it would contact the aluminum housing that the screw sits in. Which would easily hold the weight. Just my two cents. Do what makes you feel comfortable, and then you can relax, knowing your safe.
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PostSubject: Re: Becker-Technik lifter   Becker-Technik lifter Icon_minitime1Mon Apr 02, 2018 2:12 am

I honestly believe they should have supplied replacement frame bolts machined to match the stand pivot bushes. For a few pennies more it would have guaranteed a secure fit.
I bought a 18" breaker bar and use it to get the bike upright and still don't trust the stand without it.
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PostSubject: Re: Becker-Technik lifter   Becker-Technik lifter Icon_minitime1Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:04 pm

I think it could be better designed in some ways, it would be nice to have replacement bolts provided that replace those the stand connects to. Its worked ok for me, but has put scratched in the paint, depsite my best endeavours.
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PostSubject: Re: Becker-Technik lifter   Becker-Technik lifter Icon_minitime1Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:00 pm

Where have you purchased the B-T stand? Price + shipping?
Thanks
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PostSubject: Re: Becker-Technik lifter   Becker-Technik lifter Icon_minitime1Sun Sep 27, 2020 1:03 am

I've ordered it at Moto Guzzi GRiSO-Lifter for 85 + 20.7 Eur two years ago. But shipping to US might be different. Price includes VAT as well, what should not be applicable for you.
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PostSubject: Re: Becker-Technik lifter   Becker-Technik lifter Icon_minitime1Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:17 pm

I have used my Becker Stand for 9 years and many dozens of times without issue.
I use an 18 inch breaker bar in the base square hole to make it easier to lift and have always found it stable and level on a flat surface.
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