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PilotJet
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PostSubject: A Tire Question   A Tire Question Icon_minitime1Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:26 am

So I just ordered a new set of tires for my 2012 Kawi Concours 14 .... 120/70 ZR17 Front and 190/50 ZR17 Rear.  I accidentally ordered the Pilot Power 3's when I thought I was ordering the Pilot Road 3's and the order already shipped. So I'm wondering, can I hold onto these and put them on my 17 GRiSO instead when it needs new tires (probably the end of this season)? I know the front size is the same, but do you think the rear size difference will be a problem (180/55)? I don't ride the track or race at all, but I do get aggressive.... occasionally. If they wont work, I'll just put them on the Concours and probably wear them out quicker than I'd like.... Thanks So Much!
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PostSubject: Re: A Tire Question   A Tire Question Icon_minitime1Fri Apr 27, 2018 1:56 pm

Clearance is tight on the swingarm with a 180. I’d expect the 190 to foul it.

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PostSubject: Re: A Tire Question   A Tire Question Icon_minitime1Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:14 pm

Ya, after you said that I went and looked and Crap! You're right, I didn't realize the clearance was that close to the swingarm. Holy Crap, that's close. Looks like I'll be burning those tires off on the big bike.... at least I got them for 100 bucks less than the pilot roads. Thanks Pete!
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PostSubject: Re: A Tire Question   A Tire Question Icon_minitime1Fri Apr 27, 2018 3:09 pm

I ran Avon Storms on my GRiSO once. The rear actually measured 188, and it didn't rub, but there was bugger-all clearance. A 190 might work if the true width is less. However, the wider rear made it handle like an overloaded barge. For that reason alone, I wouldn't do it.




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PostSubject: Re: A Tire Question   A Tire Question Icon_minitime1Fri Apr 27, 2018 3:34 pm

Yes, You're Right. Thank You! I'm stuck with my mistake. That's ok though... Maybe I can get the big bike onto the track up in Loudon, NH on a track day and put those new tires to the test!
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PostSubject: Re: A Tire Question   A Tire Question Icon_minitime1Fri Apr 27, 2018 3:53 pm

A Concours on the track? That'd be a sight to see! Very Happy


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PostSubject: Re: A Tire Question   A Tire Question Icon_minitime1Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:09 pm

My personal opinion,but I prefer the Powers over the Roads. I beleve the Pilot Powers have been discontinued.....
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PostSubject: Re: A Tire Question   A Tire Question Icon_minitime1Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:25 pm

That's good to hear. I was thinking they would be better to run on the GRiSO than on the heavier bike cause I've been reading that they wear pretty fast, but I'm hoping they'll be ok. I'm sure they'll be fine. I do like the feel of softer, stickier tires...makes me do things I probably shouldn't be doing though. Smile I got the pair for a good price.
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PostSubject: Re: A Tire Question   A Tire Question Icon_minitime1Sun Apr 29, 2018 3:51 pm

If it fitted it would slow the turn in rate a tad.
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PostSubject: Re: A Tire Question   A Tire Question Icon_minitime1Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:16 am

beetle wrote:
A Concours on the track? That'd be a sight to see! Very Happy


cheers

The Concours Owners Group had a track day in Jennings FL this past Feb. There were a gaggle of Connies in attendance and make a great showing. The track personnel thought we would slow down the other riders. No so if you know how to ride. :-)

I was running the GRiSO
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PostSubject: Re: A Tire Question   A Tire Question Icon_minitime1Mon Apr 30, 2018 4:03 pm

The Connie really does get up and go. Got it mostly for the girlfriend and the long trips, but its got a rocket engine in it and it handles so nice for a heavy bike. But playing on the GRiSO (2nd one) is the most fun I've ever had on a bike ... that, and the 400 thumper in the woods!
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PostSubject: Re: A Tire Question   A Tire Question Icon_minitime1Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:07 am

So I ended up with those Pilot Power tires on the Concours this year and I really like them. Only put 3,500 on them so far but they are wearing very nice. They are great tires for a decent price. The GRiSO is ready for a new set in the spring so I'm going with another set of these, if I can still find some, but the right size this time. Nothing like a set of new tires. Always feels like a new bike for the first 1,000 miles. I picked up a No-Mar tire changing machine a few years ago and have never looked back. Wish I had one of those 30 years ago.
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PostSubject: Re: A Tire Question   A Tire Question Icon_minitime1Fri Nov 16, 2018 9:56 am

I had Powers on my Norge -- also by mistake the dealer's, not mine, tho I am certainly capable of that!  Embarassed

I really liked them, but could not afford them as my rear corded at c.3.5K.  Sad

Likely more my weight than Norge power; cannot believe that your "only (!) 3.5K" is on a Kaw 14.  I've only ridden one of those and nearly dumped Kathi off the rear end when I pulled an unintentional wheelie as I pulled away.  Lordy.  Shocked  

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PostSubject: Re: A Tire Question   A Tire Question Icon_minitime1Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:29 am

I Know, Right! That's funny. The front can sometimes come up on that "heavy" nose. The motor on that 14 is such a power plant, and so smooth.... I do appreciate Japanese engineering. Took 2 long trips up thru Northern Maine this year and its perfect for comfort and storage without sacrificing performance. Have a cabin way up by the border near Mars Hill. The roads are So Sweet up there, and the traffic is next to nothing, compared to here in Mass where there's no such thing as "Nice Road, No Traffic". So the Guzzi suffered lower mileage this year, but not too bad. It was out for a little bit getting warranty work done (those pesky leaking allen plugs in the head). Using it as a bar hopper, it gets a fair share of mileage. Smile The thumper (WR400) never made it in the woods this year). Sad
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PostSubject: Re: A Tire Question   A Tire Question Icon_minitime1Sun Nov 25, 2018 6:30 pm

I had an emergency tire change during my summer tour on the Norge, ended up with a 190 rear, a Metzler M3. Fit with no rubbing, but barely.....
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PostSubject: Re: A Tire Question   A Tire Question Icon_minitime1Sun Nov 25, 2018 6:46 pm

Charlie J wrote:
My personal opinion,but I prefer the Powers over the Roads. I beleve the Pilot Powers have been discontinued.....

The Pilot Powers appear to have the same tread as the Pilot Road 2s. I like them, especially on the 1200 Sport. Still available in NZ.
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