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PostSubject: Jug protectors   Jug protectors Icon_minitime1Thu Apr 16, 2020 7:42 pm

Every Guzzi owner knows that there are not a lot of options for protecting those beautiful jugs. I do not care for the long jug protector in the first photo. The round one in the second is better but costs around $300, ouch! I just fabricated some that are low profile(last picture). What do you guys think? Go with jug protectors or go without.

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PostSubject: Re: Jug protectors   Jug protectors Icon_minitime1Thu Apr 16, 2020 7:46 pm


But the 1100 already has sacrificial protectors. Those black doohickeys that you've attached your monstrosity to.




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PostSubject: Re: Jug protectors   Jug protectors Icon_minitime1Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:45 pm

They can break, and they can also break spark plugs and caps when dropped. Don't ask how I know...
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PostSubject: Re: Jug protectors   Jug protectors Icon_minitime1Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:18 am

Thanks Tony for the heads up😬 I was wondering how the plastic protectors would hold up on a tip over. I think they would do a better job if they were made out of aluminum?
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PostSubject: Re: Jug protectors   Jug protectors Icon_minitime1Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:44 am

Yes perhaps. They are designed to slide I would imagine, but an "at a standstill" drop puts a lot of sudden weight on them, with predictable results. Mostly to look good, methinks.

If you get some made from Aluminium, I would say there's a market. I have thought of it but have since lost my access to the equipment to do it.
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PostSubject: Re: Jug protectors   Jug protectors Icon_minitime1Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:49 am


I am not especially offended by the first set, nor -- other than the $300 (tho drops and slides can co$t WAY more than that Twisted Evil ) -- the second.

What are the two? Links or just names?

Thanks.

Bill
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PostSubject: Re: Jug protectors   Jug protectors Icon_minitime1Fri Apr 17, 2020 11:30 am

One set, I think the first, are Agostini and the other are Stucchi. That is going from cloudy memory though.

I've never been a fan for the simple reason that the way they all mount means impact forces are transmitted to the front engine mounting bolts and I'm acutely aware of the history of smashed timing chests and crank cases on Spineframes due to forces imposed by such impacts.

Generally Grisos crash pretty well. As long as you don't hit something. You'll loose the oil cooler housing on the right and footpegs etc are sacrificial but head damage isn't common, although if there is any speed involved you'll likely grind a hole in a rocker cover. Steering lock-stops are weak as well so a drop usually means a new bottom yoke.

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PostSubject: Re: Jug protectors   Jug protectors Icon_minitime1Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:31 pm

I always liked the DTF head protectors first developed by Finebau Forge. Made from 5083 aluminium, they fit between the rocker cover & head, to protect the head & engine (not supposed to work as bike cream protectors). I like the idea of spreading the load all the way across the top of the head. They work, in a serious bingle they minimise the damage, rather than prevent all damage.

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PostSubject: Re: Jug protectors   Jug protectors Icon_minitime1Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:40 pm

KC34, a small Italian company, has designed & produced several items for the GRiSO.  I do not particularly like them (as I find their designs have too many angles) but you may like them.  They seems well made.

See this link.

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PostSubject: Re: Jug protectors   Jug protectors Icon_minitime1Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:17 pm

Yes, that is an interesting design, thanks for sharing that!
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PostSubject: Re: Jug protectors   Jug protectors Icon_minitime1Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:19 pm


The first pic are Stucchi/LGC crash bars. They are now made from Unobtainium.  I have a set. Here's a pic on my GRiSO from prehistoric times.


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PostSubject: Re: Jug protectors   Jug protectors Icon_minitime1Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:02 pm

I resemble those front disks! This was from before oranginification...
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PostSubject: Re: Jug protectors   Jug protectors Icon_minitime1Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:51 pm

The second set are Hepco Becker. They mount on tabs that project at right angles from the main tubes, which I think would tend to bend in a real crash, perhaps saving the hard points they mount to. Here's a photo of them unmounted:

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The lower mounting is to the outside of the beefy downtubes that support the engine, but on the right-angle tabs. Could be a better set up than a V11, I don't know.

I have mine boxed up and ready to ship if any one is interested in them! (Send me a PM.) I took them off my 1100 after deciding the plastic pucks on that model were sufficient. (I also decided that the plastic pucks would be better than aluminum, for what that's worth, on the theory that they are sacrificial and shouldn't be too hard.)

From what I can tell, crash bars are much more important for the puckless GRiSO 1200, which has expensive valve covers exposed to greater risk.

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PostSubject: Re: Jug protectors   Jug protectors Icon_minitime1Sat Apr 18, 2020 8:50 am

Having had a walkover-speed tip-over during a storm, the Stucchi engine guards (top pics, my favorite aesthetically) worked well to prevent any damage to the head/rocker cover, although I imagine at high speed the impact will just push the bar into the head with such force that the bars themselves will still damage the rocker cover.
Only had to repaint the right side protectors (carc & head) rather than replace a valve cover so for me the investment already worked out (especially since the bars are still functional).

Had to buy the bars second hand as Stucchi still has them listed but in 2 years I've never seen them stocked:

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PostSubject: Re: Jug protectors   Jug protectors Icon_minitime1Sat Jun 06, 2020 12:14 pm

+2 for the Stucchi Luigi. They are super sturdy and will protect the 1200 from the random slippery parking lot oopsie. I know (the shame!).
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PostSubject: Re: Jug protectors   Jug protectors Icon_minitime1Fri Oct 09, 2020 10:50 am

The damage in my recent "incident" required replacing the valve cover which was around $100, and sanding/painting the scratched cooling fins on the head which was an $8 can of paint and some fine-grit sandpaper. Better than replacing $300 bars that don't look very nice, IMHO.

(There was also the oil cooler housing, but I expect you'd scratch that up even with the head protector bars.)
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