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PostSubject: Anyone install these items?   Anyone install these items? Icon_minitime1Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:43 pm

I’ve done searches and research and not really any concrete answer.. so I’d though I’d just ask you all the experts:

Anyone install these mods:
1. Side license bracket (vertical off the swing arm?)
2. Small headlight fairing other than the dart? Eg: rizoma aluminum?
3. Rizoma race retro handlebar
4. Motogadget mini turn signals off stock front and rear without tail tidy?
5. Lastly a 19” front wheel?
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone install these items?   Anyone install these items? Icon_minitime1Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:49 pm

Nope, never, sorry!
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone install these items?   Anyone install these items? Icon_minitime1Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:08 am

Really? Or being sarcastic?
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone install these items?   Anyone install these items? Icon_minitime1Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:34 am

Frstrtdmac wrote:


Anyone install these mods:

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1. Side license bracket (vertical off the swing arm?)

No, but there's a few who have on this forum, I believe.

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2. Small headlight fairing other than the dart? Eg: rizoma aluminum?


Yes. I have had the big Guzzi screen, Honda style cafe racer screen, Dart Marlin & Piranha, and currently a Stryker fairing.


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3. Rizoma race retro handlebar

No. I've had Aprilia Mana bars, 2 x bars whose manufacture I don't recall, and currently Jota style bars.


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4. Motogadget mini turn signals off stock front and rear without tail tidy?


Not Motogadget, but I'm currently running Mishimoto LEDS, which are the same size.


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5. Lastly a 19” front wheel?


Good god, man! Why?


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PostSubject: Re: Anyone install these items?   Anyone install these items? Icon_minitime1Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:22 pm

Frstrtdmac wrote:
I’ve done searches and research and not really any concrete answer.. so I’d though I’d just ask you all the experts:

Anyone install these mods:
1. Side license bracket (vertical off the swing arm?)
Yes, er no, mines a rear mount off the swing arm.
2. Small headlight fairing other than the dart? Eg: rizoma aluminum?
Yes, made my own mounts
3. Rizoma race retro handlebar
No
4. Motogadget mini turn signals off stock front and rear without tail tidy?
Yes
5. Lastly a 19” front wheel?
WTF?
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone install these items?   Anyone install these items? Icon_minitime1Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:27 pm

What’s the problem? I want to make the bike my own.. u would love for a 19” front tire. I’m not taking this on the race track.
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone install these items?   Anyone install these items? Icon_minitime1Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:29 pm

Go for it let us know how it works.
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone install these items?   Anyone install these items? Icon_minitime1Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:44 pm

I used the mounting blocks from [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

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PostSubject: Re: Anyone install these items?   Anyone install these items? Icon_minitime1Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:09 pm

19 inch front tyre ? My goodness, you would have to start your turn in three corners ahead.
Do you only have straight roads where you live ? scratch
Perhaps a stelvio ?
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone install these items?   Anyone install these items? Icon_minitime1Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:30 pm

Thanks for that link Robinson!

Marcdavo, no why? Have you rode a bike with larger than a 17” wheel? There are tons of bikes: triumph, Harley, etc.. that have 19” and bigger. I’m not taking the bike to a track. Why would I start my turn three corners ahead?

Im just seeing if anyone has really done some fun and different things other than bolt on a windshield or exhaust?

Here are my last 2 bikes. They were customs. Had no problems with power and no problems with turning. City or twisters.

Again not super bikes!
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone install these items?   Anyone install these items? Icon_minitime1Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:32 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Anyone install these items?   Anyone install these items? Icon_minitime1Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:04 pm

Just buy a V85. Front wheel is already 19". And you get a bonus tube installed too!
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone install these items?   Anyone install these items? Icon_minitime1Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:08 pm

Frstrtdmac wrote:
Thanks for that link Robinson!

Marcdavo, no why? Have you rode a bike with larger than a 17” wheel? There are tons of bikes: triumph, Harley, etc.. that have 19” and bigger. I’m not taking the bike to a track. Why would I start my turn three corners ahead?

Im just seeing if anyone has really done some fun and different things other than bolt on a windshield or exhaust?

Here are my last 2 bikes. They were customs. Had no problems with power and no problems with turning. City or twisters.

Again not super bikes!

It's not simply the wheel size alone, it's the effect it will have on the steering geometry. Just putting a 19 inch wheel on a GRiSO will make it handle like a fridge.

There are plenty of people here who have done other things than simply "Bolting on a windshield and exhaust" but most modifications are aimed at making the machine handle and perform better or rider comfort.

If you want to do what many would consider weird, ugly stuff to your bike that's fine, albeit a waste to most of us but adding a larger wheel with a skinnier front tyre to a vehicle with an already long wheelbase will increase rake and trail further slowing it's already ponderous steering. If that is a trade off you're willing to accept to get the desired appearance all well and good but it leaves me scratching my head a bit. A Stelvio wheel will fit into the forks easily enough although you might need a new spindle and spacer to center it and it would of course need a new front mudguard. There also might be clearance problems between the wheel and belt cover and mudguard and bottom yoke unless you used yokes with a greater offset. That at least might help reduce the trail a bit and make the steering a little less supertankery.

Good luck.
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone install these items?   Anyone install these items? Icon_minitime1Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:53 pm

Pete, that is the answer I was looking for.

So question, assume clearance is nonissue and yokes with a greater offset to reduce the trail, I would also think you would need to lower the front end a bit to match stock?

Reason for a 19” is not only looks, but it’s that blend of bobber/cafe Italian style. Moto guzzi early on had this and they were so nice. I know that they didn’t have large rear tires, but trying to go for something a bit different.
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone install these items?   Anyone install these items? Icon_minitime1Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:59 pm

Then again the Harley and the victory had longer rake with trail number and they turned just fine..

Just seeing if anyone had attempted to do so?
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone install these items?   Anyone install these items? Icon_minitime1Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:12 pm

Frstrtdmac wrote:
Pete, that is the answer I was looking for.

So question, assume clearance is nonissue and yokes with a greater offset to reduce the trail, I would also think you would need to lower the front end a bit to match stock?

Reason for a 19” is not only looks, but it’s that blend of bobber/cafe Italian style. Moto guzzi early on had this and they were so nice. I know that they didn’t have large rear tires, but trying to go for something a bit different.

Shorter forks or slide 'em up through the yokes I suppose.

Most if not all older Guzzis use identical diameter wheels, (Not sure about Loops? They might of had a bigger front than rear?) but all the Tonti's up until some models of Cali1100 had either 18 inches front and rear, 16 inches front and rear or an 18 rear and a 16 front. When the V11 came along they went to 17 inchers front and rear. The CARC series are all 17 both ends apart from the Stelvio and the Bellagio.
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone install these items?   Anyone install these items? Icon_minitime1Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:43 pm

So would the stelvio or the v85 have the correct 19” wheel with hubs and yoke?
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone install these items?   Anyone install these items? Icon_minitime1Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:57 pm

Stelvio. Pity you're so far away, I have a Stelvio wheel gathering dust in my munt pile.

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PostSubject: Re: Anyone install these items?   Anyone install these items? Icon_minitime1Sun Jul 05, 2020 7:26 pm

Where are u Peter? Can you ship?
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone install these items?   Anyone install these items? Icon_minitime1Sun Jul 05, 2020 7:34 pm

Australia. I really don't think it would be worth it. Try somewhere more local like Pinwall.
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone install these items?   Anyone install these items? Icon_minitime1Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:31 am

Thanks.. I’ll take a look
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone install these items?   Anyone install these items? Icon_minitime1Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:37 pm

Frstrtdmac wrote:
Thanks for that link Robinson!

Marcdavo, no why? Have you rode a bike with larger than a 17” wheel? There are tons of bikes: triumph, Harley, etc.. that have 19” and bigger. I’m not taking the bike to a track. Why would I start my turn three corners ahead?

Im just seeing if anyone has really done some fun and different things other than bolt on a windshield or exhaust?

Here are my last 2 bikes. They were customs. Had no problems with power and no problems with turning. City or twisters.

Again not super bikes!

Your bike Frstrtdmac.
I suggested the stelvio for its larger front wheel, and possible fit for your purpose. Pete added much more than I could.
Three turn ahead was just a bit of sardonic Aussie humor. Not meant literally or to offend.

I have ridden and owned bikes with larger front wheels. Currently own a Vstrom with a 19/17 combination, and I know how slow that turns in. However its geometry is set up for the larger wheel and is more unpaved road orientated. As kids we added stupid big front wheels to pushbikes and chopped them etc. None of it worked out well, but it was fun.

Its ironic you show pics of a Vrod. A couple of years ago rode through an accident where a Vrod didnt quite make it through a tight right hand corner. Talking with a couple of blokes he was riding with and he had just put a larger front wheel on his bike.

Anyway, hope you achieve your desired aims. No ill will intended, just a discussion.
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone install these items?   Anyone install these items? Icon_minitime1Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:31 pm

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Here's my GRiSO with a 19" stelvio wheel. Hwy410 by Rainier
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone install these items?   Anyone install these items? Icon_minitime1Fri Jul 10, 2020 6:45 am

Nice Yanks! How does it turn? Any other pics??
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone install these items?   Anyone install these items? Icon_minitime1Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:52 pm

It needed more bar input. Off power, no hands, bike went straight. I enjoyed the set up; need a stelvio.
I've gone back to the 17" front wheel and found a better spring for the Wilbur shock.
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