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PostSubject: Re: Oil leak in the back of the engine   Oil leak in the back of the engine - Page 3 Icon_minitime1Mon Jul 04, 2022 6:17 am

Great!
Thank you Pete.
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PostSubject: Re: Oil leak in the back of the engine   Oil leak in the back of the engine - Page 3 Icon_minitime1Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:48 am

Hi,
I have already ordered the gaskets and I am just waiting they arrive to get my hands on the job Smile
I saw in some post that the headers and side stand had to be removed to have access to all the sump bolts and drop it down. Is this confirmed?

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PostSubject: Re: Oil leak in the back of the engine   Oil leak in the back of the engine - Page 3 Icon_minitime1Tue Jul 12, 2022 8:20 am

i have done the job and i did remove the side-stand
but i can't remember if i had to....

I used the "lumber stand" but the official service stand or Pete's front wheel chock and a jack would also work
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PostSubject: Re: Oil leak in the back of the engine   Oil leak in the back of the engine - Page 3 Icon_minitime1Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:37 pm

Don’t you have to take the headers off to get to one of the bolts on the side stand…..making this more complicated then it needs to be, or, an I mistaken?
Thank you.
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PostSubject: Re: Oil leak in the back of the engine   Oil leak in the back of the engine - Page 3 Icon_minitime1Tue Jul 12, 2022 2:03 pm

If yours is an early one with the spacer then you find that the side stand and the oil cooler are bolted to the spacer! So they need to come off and yes, one of the exhaust pipes - but that means you can polish the pipe Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Oil leak in the back of the engine   Oil leak in the back of the engine - Page 3 Icon_minitime1Tue Jul 12, 2022 3:48 pm

Thanks guys....I better plan some time for the job...
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PostSubject: Re: Oil leak in the back of the engine   Oil leak in the back of the engine - Page 3 Icon_minitime1Tue Jul 19, 2022 3:23 am

Hi Everton e,
I took a look at the service manuals I have and was not easy to identify the torque values for the sump bolts, oil tube connections,...
Do you have this available by chance?

BR
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PostSubject: Re: Oil leak in the back of the engine   Oil leak in the back of the engine - Page 3 Icon_minitime1Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:49 pm

The torque settings are in 4 pages in the  "Characteristics" section at the beginning of the manuals  -mine are from page CHAR14 to CHAR18.

I would rather you read them there than have the risk of me mistyping added to the pot Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Oil leak in the back of the engine   Oil leak in the back of the engine - Page 3 Icon_minitime1Tue Jul 19, 2022 7:01 pm

Thank you Jon Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Oil leak in the back of the engine   Oil leak in the back of the engine - Page 3 Icon_minitime1Thu Jul 21, 2022 4:29 pm

I am sad today Sad
I was hoping, praying, those gaskets to be torn to pieces, but no such luck...
The two of them, regardless the 42,000 km, were in pretty good shape (the lower one broke when I removed it from the pan.
It looks more and more that I will have to go for the main rear seal pale

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PostSubject: Re: Oil leak in the back of the engine   Oil leak in the back of the engine - Page 3 Icon_minitime1Thu Jul 21, 2022 6:19 pm

Maria's. I may of led you astray, for some reason I thought that your bike was an 1100. I have no idea why as you clearly state it's an 8V.

This changes things a bit. Disregard my comments about the Welch plug, it doesn't have one.

If yours is an early engine the fault will be the fact that the case and oil delivery tube on the main bearing flange are machined wrong and the two lower bolts that hold it on may be too long.

You'll have to drop the motor and remove the gearbox and clutch. Then remove the flange, (Special tool required.) file a couple of mm off the length of the oil delivery tube, fit a new, slightly thicker, o-ring to the tube to ensure it seals and reinstall the flange WITHOUT a gasket, just a thin smear of Threebond 1211 or similar. Also replace the two bottom bolts with ones 5mm shorter.

This was a manufacturing defect on early motors. Sorry for the confusion.
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PostSubject: Re: Oil leak in the back of the engine   Oil leak in the back of the engine - Page 3 Icon_minitime1Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:45 pm

You thought well Pete...My GRiSO is indeed a 1100. I understand...Too many people with too many problems Smile We can only thank you for your support.
Anyway, if a miracle doesn't happen and those drops will keep showing on the garage floor I will have to go for it.
It might be the seal, the flange, the camshaft bearing plug....If I will drop the motor I will check all of that.
I am only divided if I should try it miself (i'm short of the special tools and other hardware) or give it to a repair shop. There is only a Guzzi dealer close to me (= expensive and slow) and I don't feel confortable giving the bike to a common repair shop....So far I have been handling things myself...
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PostSubject: Re: Oil leak in the back of the engine   Oil leak in the back of the engine - Page 3 Icon_minitime1Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:46 pm

OK, so now I'm wondering why I thought it was an 8V? scratch never mind, as you were.....
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