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 2006 1100 GRiSO Timing Chain and tensioner

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PostSubject: 2006 1100 GRiSO Timing Chain and tensioner   2006 1100 GRiSO Timing Chain and tensioner Icon_minitime1Wed Jul 12, 2023 1:36 am

Howdy people. Aside from the workshop manual, not able to find to much specific info on the change of both chain and tensioner.

My bikes done 190k now. And a task on mind, but not yet done, or sourced parts. The chain and the gasket appear fairly easy decisions. Options are refined.

The tensioner on the other hand is debatable.

The workshop manual shows one. And google searches around a number of stores, show a couple of options. The question being, is which is the option, that fits, or best recommended. The little stumpy one appears to be original fitment, and one not recommended, And then there is the long version on a rod with spring, and another similar one with a triangular plate.

When changing the chain, the manual has the engine out, and some securing device to hold the engine static?
Does anyone have a procedure if wanting to complete task with engine in frame?

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PostSubject: Re: 2006 1100 GRiSO Timing Chain and tensioner   2006 1100 GRiSO Timing Chain and tensioner Icon_minitime1Wed Jul 12, 2023 1:40 am

The other option as stated above. but not likely to be the right fit.
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PostSubject: Re: 2006 1100 GRiSO Timing Chain and tensioner   2006 1100 GRiSO Timing Chain and tensioner Icon_minitime1Wed Jul 12, 2023 2:23 am

No, you don't want the third one with the plate that fits on the front main bolt. It won't work on your engine.

The one I understand you need, but I haven't fitted one yet, is the first one but as I understand it you need to remove the pin already in the block to insert the one on the tensioner. Once again my understanding is that this can be done with the application of heat with a heat gun or butane torch but this is hearsay.

There is no need for the engine to leave the frame.
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PostSubject: Re: 2006 1100 GRiSO Timing Chain and tensioner   2006 1100 GRiSO Timing Chain and tensioner Icon_minitime1Thu Jul 13, 2023 7:36 am

I have installed the first type tensioner on my breva 1100.
I confirm the need of heat in order to remove the pin from the block and install the tensioner.
Not a particularly difficult job, but my engine was on a bench...

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PostSubject: Re: 2006 1100 GRiSO Timing Chain and tensioner   2006 1100 GRiSO Timing Chain and tensioner Icon_minitime1Wed Jul 26, 2023 1:40 am

Ordered the parts yesterday, a couple week wait for delivery.
And then I will probably procrastinate for a little pondering why am I doing this, and hope things go smoothly in the dismantle, and or I don't mess it up

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PostSubject: Re: 2006 1100 GRiSO Timing Chain and tensioner   2006 1100 GRiSO Timing Chain and tensioner Icon_minitime1Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:21 am

You're South Island aren't you? Pity, I'm probably coming over to the north island next month, I could walk you through it.
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PostSubject: Re: 2006 1100 GRiSO Timing Chain and tensioner   2006 1100 GRiSO Timing Chain and tensioner Icon_minitime1Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:24 am

Yes, Im in the South, the better Island in humble opinion Very Happy Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: 2006 1100 GRiSO Timing Chain and tensioner   2006 1100 GRiSO Timing Chain and tensioner Icon_minitime1Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:13 am

We love both of them. This time it's the North Island's turn. cheers

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PostSubject: Re: 2006 1100 GRiSO Timing Chain and tensioner   2006 1100 GRiSO Timing Chain and tensioner Icon_minitime1Wed Sep 27, 2023 2:15 am

Tonight, completed putting the bike together and 1st start up. there was a whining which was not present prior to task.
Interested on thoughts... I will look at the Alternator belt 1st since easy to check. I may have done to tight. Hopefully the case.
The new tensioner is a snug fit. Rotating the engine by hand it did not appear to be an issue, but maybe at speed this could cause the whining also? I hope not. Another tear down would suck.

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PostSubject: Re: 2006 1100 GRiSO Timing Chain and tensioner   2006 1100 GRiSO Timing Chain and tensioner Icon_minitime1Wed Sep 27, 2023 2:21 am

'This video is private'.

The Valtek tensioners can be noisy, especially at first. If it's running? It's likely fine.

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PostSubject: Re: 2006 1100 GRiSO Timing Chain and tensioner   2006 1100 GRiSO Timing Chain and tensioner Icon_minitime1Wed Sep 27, 2023 2:30 am

I've changed the setting on the video. I mucked up the setting for sharing, as not intended as a public video 😄
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PostSubject: Re: 2006 1100 GRiSO Timing Chain and tensioner   2006 1100 GRiSO Timing Chain and tensioner Icon_minitime1Wed Sep 27, 2023 3:10 am

You were doing that thing with the goat again weren't you and had to go back and edit it out. We see you....... Razz

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PostSubject: Re: 2006 1100 GRiSO Timing Chain and tensioner   2006 1100 GRiSO Timing Chain and tensioner Icon_minitime1Wed Sep 27, 2023 3:13 am

Pete Roper wrote:
You were doing that thing with the goat again weren't you and had to go back and edit it out. We see you....... Razz

Hahaha Very Happy Smile

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PostSubject: Re: 2006 1100 GRiSO Timing Chain and tensioner   2006 1100 GRiSO Timing Chain and tensioner Icon_minitime1Wed Sep 27, 2023 5:31 am

At a Rally I had my V11 Sport next next to another V11 Sport that had the Valtek tensioner & so could compare the difference in sound . My machine had more of a ‘clattering’ sound whereas his had a ‘turbine’ sound.

Minor detail but hope that helps

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PostSubject: Re: 2006 1100 GRiSO Timing Chain and tensioner   2006 1100 GRiSO Timing Chain and tensioner Icon_minitime1Wed Sep 27, 2023 11:39 am

Nobleswood wrote:
At a Rally I had my V11 Sport next next to another V11 Sport that had the Valtek tensioner & so could compare the difference in sound . My machine had more of a ‘clattering’ sound whereas his had a ‘turbine’ sound.

Minor detail but hope that helps

I could take "turbine" sound to mean more power 🤣🤣
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PostSubject: Re: 2006 1100 GRiSO Timing Chain and tensioner   2006 1100 GRiSO Timing Chain and tensioner Icon_minitime1Sun Nov 05, 2023 1:14 am

Finally the job is complete, there will be a video film following to show how the turbine sound has changed, if it is to be perceived to have changed, but with over 2000km on the clock since the job done. The bike is still going well, I think  Very Happy

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