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PostSubject: Re: Crash bars / Engine protectors....   Tue Jul 26, 2016 4:16 am

Having towed all manor of bikes I can tell you many a crash bar/oggy knob has caused more damage that what it saved. Namely major frame damage and the bike listed a statutory write-off.

Suppose it all depends on the bike, the crash protection and the incident.
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PostSubject: Re: Crash bars / Engine protectors....   Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:53 am

I set my GRiSO down easy yesterday in some loose gravel. Managed to scratch the paint on my Stucchi crash bars! Note to self: do not stop with bars turned on loose gravel.
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PostSubject: Re: Crash bars / Engine protectors....   Tue Jul 26, 2016 9:10 am

When we did the South Australia trip I managed to pull off the tar onto some very slippery clay and immediately throw my old shitter on its side! Oh how people laughed! Very Happy At least it was nice and soft so I didn't break anything. It was a complete bastard to pick up though!

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PostSubject: Re: Crash bars / Engine protectors....   Tue Jul 26, 2016 12:03 pm

I had that moment when I assessed how badly I was going to hurt myself keeping it upright. Luckily no one was around to laugh at me; I might have pulled something trying to make the save. And yes picking it back up is no small chore! Good to know you can manage it though.
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PostSubject: Re: Crash bars / Engine protectors....   Thu Jul 28, 2016 3:33 am

MIne came with the Stucchi bars, but as they are seriously hampering maintenance, I took them away.
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PostSubject: Re: Crash bars / Engine protectors....   Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:42 pm

I tipped over on the right side one year ago, no speed, really stupid situation.
Valve cover punctured, oil spewing out so GRiSO grounded for several weeks until new cover arrives from Italy (first attempt wrong cover, they got it right on second try)

I don't mind scratches on the covers, but I do mind getting grounded, particularily if on a trip.
So I'm thinking of fitting head guards- still only Stucchi and H&B available??Exclamation Question

Joe Kenny made lovely head guards for the old motors, hasn't he made anything for the 1200 motors?
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PostSubject: Re: Crash bars / Engine protectors....   Tue Aug 30, 2016 1:33 pm

No way to safely add any protection to the heads themselves. Insufficient mounting points. Only real option is crash bars and most of those mount in ways that risk serious case damage in the event of a spill.

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PostSubject: Re: Crash bars / Engine protectors....   Tue Aug 30, 2016 1:38 pm

Pete Roper wrote:
No way to safely add any protection to the heads themselves. Insufficient mounting points. Only real option is crash bars and most of those mount in ways that risk serious case damage in the event of a spill.

Pete

which begs the question-which h ones don't cause serious damage?
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PostSubject: Re: Crash bars / Engine protectors....   Tue Aug 30, 2016 1:46 pm

Well the old Stucchi ones were probably the least likely to. But they were also probably the least likely to offer much n the way of *Protection*. They also are a colossal pain in the arse for service and tuning as well as making the bike look like a badly plumbed soviet bathroom.

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PostSubject: Re: Crash bars / Engine protectors....   Tue Aug 30, 2016 2:32 pm

They look awesome Pete, what's wrong with you?  Razz Laughing cheers affraid cheers

You can hardly tell they're there...    Cool



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PostSubject: Re: Crash bars / Engine protectors....   Tue Aug 30, 2016 3:11 pm

Ok, point taken!
Got to rethink, maybe drop the head protection completely.
The intention was good.....

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PostSubject: Re: Crash bars / Engine protectors....   Tue Aug 30, 2016 3:12 pm

Beetle, those are the Stucchis for the 8V?
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PostSubject: Re: Crash bars / Engine protectors....   Tue Aug 30, 2016 3:19 pm

Yes.

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PostSubject: Re: Crash bars / Engine protectors....   Thu Sep 08, 2016 3:02 pm

Are the Stucci head protectors back in stock or did you have them on the shelf
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PostSubject: Re: Crash bars / Engine protectors....   Thu Sep 08, 2016 7:57 pm

Technically, they're LGC. I got mine from Gutsibits.



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PostSubject: Re: Crash bars / Engine protectors....   Thu Sep 08, 2016 10:37 pm

LGC is the successor to Stucci Luigi and owner of the Stucci name. I am surprised the are bothering with the new branding.
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PostSubject: Re: Crash bars / Engine protectors....   Sun Sep 11, 2016 4:50 am

I had first generation Stucchis on my '09 but didn't crash test them. They were tight to the heads and had to be loosened for valve checks.

Generation 2 is what is shown above. You can take off the valve covers now but torquing the front engine bolts is a question mark.

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PostSubject: Re: Crash bars / Engine protectors....   Sun Sep 11, 2016 2:32 pm

Torquing the engine bolts requires a ball hex socket. This means your torque value will not be 100% correct, but the rule of thumb is up to 15 degrees can be discounted. My torque wrenches are in in-lbs, so when converting from Nm, I always have to go slightly higher anyway.



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PostSubject: Re: Crash bars / Engine protectors....   Mon Sep 19, 2016 4:14 am

Hi,

5,5 years back I threw my G12 on its right side (wíth Stucchis...)...  pig
I had a protector on the CARC, but that bend a bit inside an the housing got scratched too, damn.
It was nothing that much, but scratches at several places.
My valve covers stayed okay, so also no damage inside where the covers are attached with its 4 M6 screws.
New Stucchis and a new CARC protector on which I made two plastics between the CARC and the front of the bar, so it won't bend inside that easily.
Better a bar scratched as my bike.  Cool

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PostSubject: Re: Crash bars / Engine protectors....   Mon Sep 19, 2016 11:16 am

Good review there. I have the CARC protector ready to fit and will get head protectors...as soon as LGC make some more.
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PostSubject: Re: Crash bars / Engine protectors....   Mon Sep 19, 2016 11:16 am

Good review there. I have the CARC protector ready to fit and will get head protectors...as soon as LGC make some more.
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PostSubject: Re: Crash bars / Engine protectors....   Mon Sep 19, 2016 2:46 pm

beetle wrote:
Torquing the engine bolts requires a ball hex socket. This means your torque value will not be 100% correct, but the rule of thumb is up to 15 degrees can be discounted. My torque wrenches are in in-lbs, so when converting from Nm, I always have to go slightly higher anyway.

Thanks, I had to Google that.  Is this the right one?

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PostSubject: Re: Crash bars / Engine protectors....   Mon Sep 19, 2016 4:10 pm

Can't see pic.




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PostSubject: Re: Crash bars / Engine protectors....   Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:11 pm

beetle wrote:
Can't see pic.    
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PostSubject: Re: Crash bars / Engine protectors....   Mon Sep 19, 2016 7:18 pm

Nope. Still not seeing anything.



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