Did the full service the other night and discovered something, After adding my normal 3 litres of chosen engine fat, I discover it's nowhere near the low mark on the stick. It appears the Rosso's dipstick is quite a bit shorter than my 09 model. I'm a bit slow but I worked out that it's fine on the side stand. This may have been covered here before so apologies if I'm going over old news. Can someone confirm that the 2015 models are checked on the side stand. I bought this bike with no manuals so can't check the books. Signed... Perplexed
nev Don Abbondio
Posts : 57 Join date : 2015-09-24
Subject: Re: You Dipstick Mon Jan 02, 2017 11:53 pm
just changed mine this morning too Waterbottle, did it upright so I just checked my book
the main points are ,
1. shut off the engine. 2.keep the vehicle upright with both wheels on the ground. 3. clean dipstick and replace without screwing in 4. pull it out again 5. oil level is correct when close to max mark .
that's what my book says,
I had to deal with the last numb nuts not lubing the rubber gasket grrrr . [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
I put 3 1/2 lts and its at the top of the marks going back to shed to let a bit out .
nev.
waterbottle GRiSO Capo
Posts : 1785 Join date : 2015-02-02 Age : 63
Subject: Re: You Dipstick Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:15 am
Nev, that works good for the old bike, not so much for the red one Love your filter removal tool by the way
nev Don Abbondio
Posts : 57 Join date : 2015-09-24
Subject: Re: You Dipstick Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:25 am
Cough splutter I cant afford a new unit Waterbottle this is my latest , oct 2015 [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
nev
nev Don Abbondio
Posts : 57 Join date : 2015-09-24
Subject: Re: You Dipstick Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:22 am
Subject: Re: You Dipstick Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:05 am
I'm a big fan of the Stelvio dipstick, and thanks to Pete Roper, I have a world traveled one in my GRiSO.
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2012 MOTO GUZZI GRiSO 1200SE
2013 MOTO GUZZI STELVIO 1200NTX - Orange Blossom Special
Pete Roper GRiSO Capo
Posts : 10665 Join date : 2013-05-29 Age : 67
Subject: Re: You Dipstick Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:19 am
One thing I wonder about is the later bikes with the Cali 14 sump still specify the same amount of oil as the earlier ones with the deeper sump and spacer arrangement. Looking at the sticks you can see that the later bikes will have the oil closer to the crank than the earlier ones and my guess is that this will increase problem of oil expulsion.
Once I get back to Oz and clear the backlog of work I'm hoping to get stuck in to the 1400 engine. One thing Mark and I did a while back was purchase all the bits needed to swap our engines over to the later sump system and I'll be doing this with the 1400 motor but I'm also thinking that designing and building some sort of 'Sloppage Sheet' such as I did for the V11 'Broad Sump' engines might be a good idea to combat oiling/expulsion problems.
Pete
Papa Lazarou GRiSO Capo
Posts : 826 Join date : 2014-10-07 Age : 70
Subject: Re: You Dipstick Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:08 pm
Oh, stuff that, just get a Japanese bike.
Bulldog9 GRiSO Capo
Posts : 498 Join date : 2016-05-14
Subject: Re: You Dipstick Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:31 pm
Pete Roper wrote:
One thing I wonder about is the later bikes with the Cali 14 sump still specify the same amount of oil as the earlier ones with the deeper sump and spacer arrangement. Looking at the sticks you can see that the later bikes will have the oil closer to the crank than the earlier ones and my guess is that this will increase problem of oil expulsion.
Once I get back to Oz and clear the backlog of work I'm hoping to get stuck in to the 1400 engine. One thing Mark and I did a while back was purchase all the bits needed to swap our engines over to the later sump system and I'll be doing this with the 1400 motor but I'm also thinking that designing and building some sort of 'Sloppage Sheet' such as I did for the V11 'Broad Sump' engines might be a good idea to combat oiling/expulsion problems.
Pete
I've noticed that my Norge (8V) will spit oil into the airbox if the oil is above 1/2 full mark on the dipstick. The GRiSO (4V) seems to be fine. Not wanting to have to play around with trying to balance the bike and try to measure the oil, I made a mark on the dipsticks so I can check on the side stand. Mr. coordination I am not...........
guzziownr Nibbio
Posts : 634 Join date : 2013-12-23
Subject: Re: You Dipstick Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:14 am
Steak wrote:
I'm a big fan of the Stelvio dipstick, and thanks to Pete Roper, I have a world traveled one in my GRiSO.
Hmmm, $50ish from AF1...
odder GRiSO Capo
Posts : 160 Join date : 2014-10-14
Subject: Re: You Dipstick Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:18 am
I think my '12 is the size of the top one. Does that mean I need medication?
Will look into the stelvio stick
Bill Hagan GRiSO Capo
Posts : 1735 Join date : 2014-07-03
Subject: Re: You Dipstick Sun Jun 24, 2018 3:41 pm
Continuing this thread -- which, yes, I have read, a fact that may seem incredible after I post my question.
Here goes:
Which dipstick in the photo below is the right one for my (2010) GRiSO?
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sideshowbob GRiSO Capo
Posts : 1107 Join date : 2017-08-06 Age : 69
Subject: Re: You Dipstick Sun Jun 24, 2018 5:53 pm
Sloppage sheet= windage tray?
sidrat GRiSO Capo
Posts : 1657 Join date : 2014-09-22
Subject: Re: You Dipstick Sun Jun 24, 2018 11:56 pm
its always the longer one
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paulbrice GRiSO Capo
Posts : 1520 Join date : 2015-01-04 Age : 63
Subject: Re: You Dipstick Mon Jun 25, 2018 12:59 am
Use the yellow one in the middle; more accurate & even adjustable
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Grisonut GRiSO
Posts : 1406 Join date : 2014-01-02
Subject: Re: You Dipstick Mon Jun 25, 2018 4:03 am
Pete Roper wrote:
One thing I wonder about is the later bikes with the Cali 14 sump still specify the same amount of oil as the earlier ones with the deeper sump and spacer arrangement. Looking at the sticks you can see that the later bikes will have the oil closer to the crank than the earlier ones and my guess is that this will increase problem of oil expulsion......
Pete
I did ask that question when I got my 2017 but got no answer... I just did the 6000 miles service yesterday and adding 3.5 liters is too much indeed. The 7100 Motul that I use has graduations on the can so I stayed about half inch bellow the 3.5L mark and now the deep stick shows half way between the two marks with the bike on its side stand and the stick unscrewed. I did fill the filter up with oil before pouring the rest of it in the engine... I believe the 2015 and up require only about 3.4 Liters of oil.
sidrat GRiSO Capo
Posts : 1657 Join date : 2014-09-22
Subject: Re: You Dipstick Mon Jun 25, 2018 5:01 am
paulbrice wrote:
Use the yellow one in the middle; more accurate & even adjustable
But then you have to remember if its in metric or imperial!
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2highlander Biondino
Posts : 244 Join date : 2016-09-28 Age : 64
Subject: Re: You Dipstick Mon Jun 25, 2018 5:10 am
As Beetle said, take the longer one, my 2012 carries the same.
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Clancy Nibbio
Posts : 761 Join date : 2016-02-09
Subject: Re: You Dipstick Mon Jun 25, 2018 3:22 pm
2highlander wrote:
As Beetle said, take the longer one, my 2012 carries the same.
^^^^^ Same
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Guest Guest
Subject: Re: You Dipstick Mon Jun 25, 2018 3:29 pm
I just dropped the sump, changed filter etc. Put in correct amount of oil, ran it. Then marked my dipstick with a 'nick' at the side stand level for future reference.
kiwi dave GRiSO Capo
Posts : 735 Join date : 2014-04-23 Age : 76
Subject: Re: You Dipstick Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:10 pm
Grisonut wrote:
Pete Roper wrote:
One thing I wonder about is the later bikes with the Cali 14 sump still specify the same amount of oil as the earlier ones with the deeper sump and spacer arrangement. Looking at the sticks you can see that the later bikes will have the oil closer to the crank than the earlier ones and my guess is that this will increase problem of oil expulsion......
Pete
I did ask that question when I got my 2017 but got no answer... I just did the 6000 miles service yesterday and adding 3.5 liters is too much indeed. The 7100 Motul that I use has graduations on the can so I stayed about half inch bellow the 3.5L mark and now the deep stick shows half way between the two marks with the bike on its side stand and the stick unscrewed. I did fill the filter up with oil before pouring the rest of it in the engine... I believe the 2015 and up require only about 3.4 Liters of oil.
My 2015 Giso only takes 3 litres of oil, including that prefilled in the oil filter. This is to get it up the the halfway mark on the dipstick (bike vertical).
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Grisonut GRiSO
Posts : 1406 Join date : 2014-01-02
Subject: Re: You Dipstick Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:20 pm
Dip stick screwed in or just resting on top of the threads?
allen Squinternotto
Posts : 4 Join date : 2018-05-27
Subject: Re: You Dipstick Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:35 am
My 07 Gris has oil pooling in gearbox and in the throttle bodies. She starts, runs fine, idles great.
But now, fellow grislings, I am sorely confused. Where did I fack up? Did I overfill (Im pretty sure I filled er up with 3.6 L, as measured by my trusty BMW funnel) or should I have filled with some lesser amount? Please help Mr. Wizard.