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PostSubject: Re: Moto Guzzi V100   Moto Guzzi V100 - Page 4 Icon_minitime1Mon Aug 30, 2021 2:43 pm

Nope, sun will kill the grass....we be walking.
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PostSubject: Re: Moto Guzzi V100   Moto Guzzi V100 - Page 4 Icon_minitime1Fri Sep 10, 2021 3:53 am

More pics.

https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=112212.0

Awful.
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PostSubject: Re: Moto Guzzi V100   Moto Guzzi V100 - Page 4 Icon_minitime1Fri Sep 10, 2021 3:58 am


Yeah, it's all over the 'net like a madman's shit. The swooning is making me ill.


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PostSubject: Re: Moto Guzzi V100   Moto Guzzi V100 - Page 4 Icon_minitime1Fri Sep 10, 2021 4:04 am

I don't get it? It's like what's-his-face went through a back catalog of all the ugliest bikes of the last thirty years. TL 650 Ducati mated with one of those dreadful GS 650's from Germany.

I still can't see any sign of a reactive drive so I'm assuming they're just relying on the ridiculously long swingarm to cope with torque reaction.

My mind is truly boggled, and not in a good way!
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PostSubject: Re: Moto Guzzi V100   Moto Guzzi V100 - Page 4 Icon_minitime1Fri Sep 10, 2021 4:21 am


It makes no difference to me. I won't be buying another bike. GRiSO will see me out.


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PostSubject: Re: Moto Guzzi V100   Moto Guzzi V100 - Page 4 Icon_minitime1Fri Sep 10, 2021 4:38 am

I'm just saddened that a company that has always produced at least something I liked and had a sort of try-hard, quirky, weirdness to them and whose product I'd enjoyed working on for so long could produce such an ugly, gimmicky mish-mash of plagiarised and BAD styling cues.

Pity.
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PostSubject: Re: Moto Guzzi V100   Moto Guzzi V100 - Page 4 Icon_minitime1Fri Sep 10, 2021 5:10 am


Then this will make you gag.






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No gagging with this one.








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PostSubject: Re: Moto Guzzi V100   Moto Guzzi V100 - Page 4 Icon_minitime1Fri Sep 10, 2021 7:53 am

A closer, third party look.
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PostSubject: Re: Moto Guzzi V100   Moto Guzzi V100 - Page 4 Icon_minitime1Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:12 am

I think a big Holly 4 barrel will fit just fine. That or 2 Weber's. AND the exhaust wrapping around and out the tail
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PostSubject: Re: Moto Guzzi V100   Moto Guzzi V100 - Page 4 Icon_minitime1Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:45 am


https://www.motoguzzi.com/it_IT/v100-mandello/

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PostSubject: Re: Moto Guzzi V100   Moto Guzzi V100 - Page 4 Icon_minitime1Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:51 am

GuzziSteve wrote:
I think a big Holly 4 barrel will fit just fine. That or 2 Weber's. AND the exhaust wrapping around and out the tail

Somehow I feel like Guzzi would opt for Rochester, just 'cause...

I'm mostly witholding judgement pending HP/TQ stats. I like a few of the design elements but feel like the way they incorporated legacy cues was clumsy. But that's the way I feel about a lot of car next-gen updates initially, and then a few days later I find I've come 'round. That said, if you want a GTO, a Firebird won't fit the bill.
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PostSubject: Re: Moto Guzzi V100   Moto Guzzi V100 - Page 4 Icon_minitime1Fri Sep 10, 2021 10:42 am

My only reservation...

If it is a 4 valve head.......
they have locked the mech-eng responsible for the cylinder heads on Lario/V75 Evil or Very Mad  & the Carc 1200s Evil or Very Mad back in the cupboard  Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Moto Guzzi V100   Moto Guzzi V100 - Page 4 Icon_minitime1Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:27 am

@ Beetle: Where did you find this one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9iGN6ib47M
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PostSubject: Re: Moto Guzzi V100   Moto Guzzi V100 - Page 4 Icon_minitime1Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:57 am

I have found the HiRes versions here:
https://wide.piaggiogroup.com/en/articles/events/moto-guzzi-presents-the-unique-futuristic-project-for-its-new-factory-and-museum-in-mandello/index.html

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PostSubject: Re: Moto Guzzi V100   Moto Guzzi V100 - Page 4 Icon_minitime1Fri Sep 10, 2021 12:36 pm

I quite like it...will need to see it in the flesh but the anni one with electronic suspension looks interesting.

I was on the cusp of buying either an MT09 or FTR 1200 but may hold off to see more of this.


On the other hand, being a Piaggio, it may be a better bet to wait for a year to see what’s wrong with the first batch.

The MT09 is just so ugly thoug, and the Indian too much money for what you get.
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PostSubject: Re: Moto Guzzi V100   Moto Guzzi V100 - Page 4 Icon_minitime1Fri Sep 10, 2021 12:56 pm

The more I look at it, the more I like it. And given that most Guzzis look better in person, I'll be anxious to see one in the flesh.

Wheels are sharp. The radiator is unobtrusive, and I'm overjoyed that they didn't go full-on bug-eye with the headlight. I'm pretty meh about the exhaust, but I reckon the aftermarket will sort that soon enough.

I also like how they kept some cylinder fins. I've read that in some cases "fake" fins aren't actually fake, but act as emergency cooling should the water cooling fail. Is there any validity to this?
At any rate, the fins on this one appear to be cosmetic.

I'll be eager to see what bags they offer.
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PostSubject: Re: Moto Guzzi V100   Moto Guzzi V100 - Page 4 Icon_minitime1Fri Sep 10, 2021 12:57 pm

96 X 72 DOHC 4 valve chain operated. Cycle World already did article. I don't think I'm going to be the guinea pig to buy one OR work on one. HA maybe it don't run cause there's no chip. AND no do-dad farkley shit works.
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PostSubject: Re: Moto Guzzi V100   Moto Guzzi V100 - Page 4 Icon_minitime1Fri Sep 10, 2021 1:31 pm

Although I think using a transverse twin is stupid when it's water cooled it's not the motor/gearbox combination that upsets me. It's the seeming absence of a reactive drive and basic cantilever suspension coupled with the seemingly absurdly long swingarm. Like the Cali 14 it seems costs were decided to be saved by tackling torque reaction with a stupidly long swingarm rather than engineering a solution.

One thing that is good is it's size. Judging from the rider in the video it appears to be quite compact and that might belie my observations about the length of the swingarm. Technically I'll not diss it too much as I don't know what's in it yet. Aesthetically it is an unparalleled disaster. I don't know who is going to buy it? People who worship at the church of ugly one assumes.
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PostSubject: Re: Moto Guzzi V100   Moto Guzzi V100 - Page 4 Icon_minitime1Fri Sep 10, 2021 1:38 pm

Don’t find it offensive, looks designed by committee/social media. Could be a decent commuter, light tourer. Have to ride it to determine it it has some special sauce.

Has the gord size switch cluster from the apes. So many bike/car reviews are all about the tech and not the experience...simulated/augmented reality...comfortable numb

In red it looks like a Honda or little bandit.

A future where everything looks like a cell phone (e-vehicles, etc)makes things just dull

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PostSubject: Re: Moto Guzzi V100   Moto Guzzi V100 - Page 4 Icon_minitime1Fri Sep 10, 2021 1:50 pm

It’s not the most exciting visually but this is the company that designed the Cali 3+ and Nevada and Norge and Breva and generations of horrific 350 / 500 / 750s. I liked my Bella but jeez it was an ugly bike. Beyond the original Le Mans up to mk 3 and maybe the MSG most Guzzis look ‘unique’. I mean...just look at a Centauro Smile

Having test ridden a load of fat Indians recently one benefit of the transverse v twin is the lack of carbuncular primary cover that all the yank V twins have. At foot level Guzzis are often fairly compact across the beam.
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PostSubject: Re: Moto Guzzi V100   Moto Guzzi V100 - Page 4 Icon_minitime1Fri Sep 10, 2021 1:58 pm

wheelbase is shorter than the GRiSO and it'll probably be lighter and definitely make more power....

those are surely plus points no?

the rear suspension is puzzling, agreed.

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Well, at least they got the wheels and fluid reservoirs right. Suspect
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